First Timer Cycle Advice

**ddmmxx** · 10-06-2009, 03:54 PM

Hi all, my friend is thinking of running a cycle of the following....

Deca 300mg per week, running weeks 1-8
Omnadren 500mg per week, running weeks 3-6
Test E 300mg per week, running weeks 7-10
DBol 20mg daily, running weeks 3-6
PCT Clomid 100mg daily, running weeks 11-12
PCT Clomid 50mg daily, running weeks 13-14
PCT Tamoxifen 40mg daily, running weeks 11-12
PCT Tamoxifen 20mg daily, running weeks 13-14

He's 32 years old, weighs 87 kg and has been training for 3 years.

All input appreciated.

**ddmmxx** · 10-07-2009, 06:10 AM

anyone?

**Critical Mass** · 10-07-2009, 07:07 AM

Why start deca before starting with test? Just start everything on day one.

**ddmmxx** · 10-07-2009, 09:28 AM

I thought it was a good idea to run the test on for 2 weeks after finishing deca

**redz** · 10-07-2009, 09:46 AM

I thought it was a good idea to run the test on for 2 weeks after finishing deca

Yes but you need to start them at the same time too. 8 weeks for deca is too short. That cycle needs work and pct should start for a full 2 weeks after the test e is done.

**ddmmxx** · 10-07-2009, 09:54 AM

Thanks for the input redz. Can you give me any advice on planning the cycle please?

**redz** · 10-07-2009, 09:57 AM

would it be a first cycle?

**chuckt12345** · 10-07-2009, 10:18 AM

cycle is way to big for first time

**Mooseman33** · 10-07-2009, 10:19 AM

i love the "my friend" threads...

**sigman roid** · 10-07-2009, 10:30 AM

As chuck said theres 2 many compounds in there

I see its your "Friends" first cycle so most would recommend a test only cycle

**ddmmxx** · 10-07-2009, 11:46 AM

Yes it is a friend genuinely. Ive done 1 cycle myself already. For him its his first time.

**ddmmxx** · 10-08-2009, 11:38 AM

What would you guys recommend for his first cycle from the list in the first post?

**Critical Mass** · 10-08-2009, 11:42 AM

First cycle= test @ 500mg 12 weeks.

**Oxen** · 10-09-2009, 05:58 AM

Hi all. The above cycle is for myself. Thanks ddmmxx for putting it up. So its way too many compounds, glad it was ran by you guys first

. 12 weeks of test will be enough for me?

**sigman roid** · 10-09-2009, 06:00 AM

yes 12 weeks at 500mg split into 2 shots of 250mg every 3.5 day followed by pct of nolva and clomid

**sigman roid** · 10-09-2009, 06:02 AM

Go with test E or C

**Oxen** · 10-09-2009, 06:53 AM

Thanks sigman. So I need to get clomid & more test e, then drop the omnadren, deca & tamoxifen. Pity I didnt check in with you guys before I bought the stuff

**sigman roid** · 10-09-2009, 07:03 AM

just save the rest for next time,drop evrything other than the test e and run clomid and tamoxifen for your pct and your good

**Oxen** · 10-09-2009, 08:44 AM

Thanks a million mate

**KimboHalfSlice** · 10-09-2009, 09:08 AM

Originally Posted by ddmmxx

He's 32 years old, weighs 87 kg and has been training for 3 years.

What height is he? I mean if he's 5'3" then he must be built like a rhinoceros, but if he's 6'3" then he's probably a little bit skinny.

We can't make any sense of weights unless you give us the height.

**sigman roid** · 10-09-2009, 09:33 AM

Originally Posted by Oxen

Thanks a million mate

No problem

**Oxen** · 10-09-2009, 09:43 AM

Sorry should have mentioned the height. Im 6ft.

**Oxen** · 10-10-2009, 08:52 AM

My test is in 150mg amounts. What doseage will I use to acheive 500mg weekly?

**Duma23** · 10-10-2009, 08:53 AM

just use 450mg

**sigman roid** · 10-10-2009, 08:56 AM

I would personally just do 450mg a week then and just do 1.5 ml every 3.5 days 450mg is still a good amount for your first cycle

**Oxen** · 10-10-2009, 09:07 AM

I might be able to swap mine for 250mg amps. Would taking the dbol be a bad idea?

**sigman roid** · 10-10-2009, 09:30 AM

you could use the dbol at 40mg a day for your first 4 weeks its up to you

**ddmmxx** · 03-05-2010, 06:36 AM

Sorry to resurrect an old thread. How soon after his last injection of test should he start his pct?

**sigman roid** · 03-05-2010, 06:41 AM

What test did he use?

**sigman roid** · 03-05-2010, 06:43 AM

If its test E start 14 days after, If its test c give it 18 days then start

**ddmmxx** · 03-05-2010, 08:49 AM

Thanks for the replies guys. Its test e he is using.

**sigman roid** · 03-05-2010, 09:10 AM

Originally Posted by ddmmxx

Thanks for the replies guys. Its test e he is using.

14 days then.

**ddmmxx** · 03-05-2010, 10:06 AM

What doseages would you recommend Sigman? He will be running Clomid & Tamoxifen

**ddmmxx** · 03-06-2010, 01:55 AM

Anyone?

**MiltonBob** · 03-06-2010, 03:17 AM

No expert but I guess the guy who wrote this was so the PCT should be pretty good.

http://www.steroid.com/novicecycle2.php

**THEMEATEATER** · 03-06-2010, 04:10 AM

Originally Posted by ddmmxx

What doseages would you recommend Sigman? He will be running Clomid & Tamoxifen

weeks 1-4 Clomid @ 50mg per day
weeks 1-4 Nolva (tamoxifen) @ 20mg per day

Next cycle you can then add in some deca. Obviously this is your first cycle so its test only to see how you react to it.

**bjohnson1968** · 03-06-2010, 05:30 AM

Originally Posted by ddmmxx

What doseages would you recommend Sigman? He will be running Clomid & Tamoxifen

Most would recommend

Nolva 40/20/20/20 ed
Clomid 100/50/50/50 ed

so what does your buddies results look l;ike I'm interested in checkin out a pic

Peace

**gunslinger2** · 03-06-2010, 09:25 AM

Originally Posted by ddmmxx

Hi all, my friend is thinking of running a cycle of the following....

Deca 300mg per week, running weeks 1-8
Omnadren 500mg per week, running weeks 3-6
Test E 300mg per week, running weeks 7-10
DBol 20mg daily, running weeks 3-6
PCT Clomid 100mg daily, running weeks 11-12
PCT Clomid 50mg daily, running weeks 13-14
PCT Tamoxifen 40mg daily, running weeks 11-12
PCT Tamoxifen 20mg daily, running weeks 13-14

He's 32 years old, weighs 87 kg and has been training for 3 years.

All input appreciated.

1. Needs to train a little while longer and get diet on point first.

2. Start with either test only at 500mg per week or test /dbol

**sigman roid** · 03-06-2010, 09:38 AM

Originally Posted by ddmmxx

What doseages would you recommend Sigman? He will be running Clomid & Tamoxifen

The pct below is a standard pct for a test cycle and is what most people use.

Originally Posted by bjohnson1968

Most would recommend

Nolva 40/20/20/20 ed
Clomid 100/50/50/50 ed

so what does your buddies results look l;ike I'm interested in checkin out a pic

Peace

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