The best A.I to run during Test-E cycle

[Swifto]

I fully understand what you are saying. I've had this discussion with many throughout the years. Determining precisely where your estrogen levels reside is pretty much impossible unless you get a blood test done. Also, I do not think it's always an increase in estrogen levels that cause the problem. When estrogen goes up so does test levels and this can balance things out.

One does not have to have low levels of estrogen to experience joint pain from using arimidex. It's simply a side effect of the drug iself! Why is it that some people can take one measly drop of arimidex per day while using 1-2 grams of test per week and experience joint pain? You see where I am coming from?

About 20 percent of the people at my gym need to run anti-es for estrogen control. They get really bad gyno without them and this goes for pro-hormones as well. Coem to thin of it thier gyno never leaves even when using anti-es. Therefore, I feel surgery is the best way to eliminate this problem for good. The other 80% has no problems whatsoever regardless of how much they are using or what they are taking. That's why I am saying to not use anti-es unless they are absolutely needed. Why take another drug that has known side effects if it's not needed? Everyone has different genetics and I think we must be careful that we do not put everyone in the same category. I'm willing to bet that many have been persuaded in to taking anti-es when they never needed them. That's all I am saying.

I've never heard of this before regarding Arimidex. What happend when they tried other AI's? Such as Aromasin?

I got a small case of gyno when I cycled, I'm actually on Letro now to try to reverse it, but I'm not counting on it. Although estrogen ablation can cause breast tissue apoptosis and regression, so we will see.

Some dont need estrogen management, there the lucky ones IMHO. DHT-derivatives can also be utilised to control E and I have personal friends that claim to do this.

I'm just of the opinoin that the sides are less when estrogen is low, than when its in suprephysiological levels. If one experiences the sides you state, lower the dose, or use another AI, a DHT or something that inhibits aromotase.

I got both gyno and acne (estrogen is definitely a contributer + scars) from high levels of estrogen and dont want someone else to do the same.

[Ronnie Rowland]

I've never heard of this before regarding Arimidex. What happend when they tried other AI's? Such as Aromasin?

I got a small case of gyno when I cycled, I'm actually on Letro now to try to reverse it, but I'm not counting on it. Although estrogen ablation can cause breast tissue apoptosis and regression, so we will see.

Some dont need estrogen management, there the lucky ones IMHO. DHT-derivatives can also be utilised to control E and I have personal friends that claim to do this.

I'm just of the opinoin that the sides are less when estrogen is low, than when its in suprephysiological levels. If one experiences the sides you state, lower the dose, or use another AI, a DHT or something that inhibits aromotase.

I got both gyno and acne (estrogen is definitely a contributer + scars) from high levels of estrogen and dont want someone else to do the same.

I understand and I am just trying to get people to think before they take another drug they may not need. I do not want to see someone permanetly ruin their joints. Once the joints get dried out and destroyed lifting becomes a real chore. Quite often side effects experienced during a cycle is from the ancillary drugs like anti-es instead of the anabolics. This can dishearten some people and they come off of steroids, only to pull it's results down and others with it.

Aromasin and even letro seems to be just as about as bad in regards to joint pain and even worse concerning fatique and depression. Using DHT derivatives seems to work much better for some IMO while others do not even need them. It use to be that most people were lucky in not getting gyno once they adjusted to teh drugs but now it seems everyone is so paranoid about getting gyno (even while using low dosages) it has become a part of their cyle whether its needed or not.

[gymnerd]

I've never heard of this before regarding Arimidex. What happend when they tried other AI's? Such as Aromasin?
I got a small case of gyno when I cycled, I'm actually on Letro now to try to reverse it, but I'm not counting on it. Although estrogen ablation can cause breast tissue apoptosis and regression, so we will see.

Some dont need estrogen management, there the lucky ones IMHO. DHT-derivatives can also be utilised to control E and I have personal friends that claim to do this.

I'm just of the opinoin that the sides are less when estrogen is low, than when its in suprephysiological levels. If one experiences the sides you state, lower the dose, or use another AI, a DHT or something that inhibits aromotase.

I got both gyno and acne (estrogen is definitely a contributer + scars) from high levels of estrogen and dont want someone else to do the same.

Hey bro everyone over at PM swears by aromasin that it doesn't hurt the joints and isn't as hard on lipids IDK personally but I did get some joint pain with adex at .5mg eod so I am going to give aromasin a try this time see how it compares.