Thanks for your advice guys. Any more comments about this cycle would be appreciated. But, as I said in my original post, I'm all natural and was thinking of trying a cycle, however I think its too early, I am just being young and restless. I want to train for a few natural shows before I get my feet wet. Moto said I was too young, I have heard different opinions on this, all being over 18 of course, If you guys could shed some light, which is better pre-25 years old or 26 and older? When did you start, and how do you feel it affected you over all?