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    Quote Originally Posted by BJJ View Post
    My testicles did not shrink at all so far but even if they had to, he was against the use of hcg during the cycle. Too risky for development of testicular malignant tumour.
    I beleive you misunderstood him or your endo is misinformed.... HCG does not cause Testicular cancer.

    HCG is only a "marker" for some Testicular tumors.

    Do a search and you'll see that is the only relationship between the 2

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    Quote Originally Posted by ythrashin View Post
    I beleive you misunderstood him or your endo is misinformed.... HCG does not cause Testicular cancer.

    HCG is only a "marker" for some Testicular tumors.

    Do a search and you'll see that is the only relationship between the 2
    High dosages of HCG injections in men can cause an istologic decay of the testicles, which "may" then lead to a testicular malignant tumour development.

    This was just a general issue information since in my case (anavar) no related problem has never been reported, as far as I am concerned.

    I was not precise in my previous post, I am glad you made me notice this.

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    By the way, my endo is "gone" since he advised me to increase my daily intake of oxandrolone of 10 mg just (I have known later on), because he was about of using my case for a publication on a monthly Italian scientific journal.
    I was unaware of this! and if I knew I would disagree.

    Furthermore...

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    Quote Originally Posted by BJJ View Post
    High dosages of HCG injections in men can cause an istologic decay of the testicles, which "may" then lead to a testicular malignant tumour development.
    I see... I've never hear of the "istologic decay". I have heard of HCG causing "leydig cell desensitization" when mega dosing with HCG. Perhaps "istologic decay" is just another term for that...

    Thats why peeps shouldn't use more then 500iu twice a week or 250iu EOD of HCG so leydig cell desensitization doesnt happen.

    The guys that try to "Shock" their testes when using HCG in PCT at 1000iu+ at one time are doing more harm then good...

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    Hey BJJ thanks for making this log its really informed me about anavar

    Anyways, you should keep a log on how your bench is. Its an easy way to tell how much muscle your building. Thanks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trying to bench 200 View Post
    Hey BJJ thanks for making this log its really informed me about anavar

    Anyways, you should keep a log on how your bench is. Its an easy way to tell how much muscle your building. Thanks!
    Thank you, I appreciate it.

    As per the log regarding "bench", I disagree would be an easy way to see how much muscles I am building. Too many factors may induce more strength in one day and less in others.

    So, at the end of the cycle, I'll undergo a new BMI (the one before cycle is visible at post n.2) and then it will be clear how much muscles I have put on and especially where. My guess is legs, since it was the weakest part.

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    The log you were taking about will be put soon on since it is an important information, as you meant.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trying to bench 200 View Post
    Anyways, you should keep a log on how your bench is. Its an easy way to tell how much muscle your building. Thanks!
    Strength Update at Day 37 (8 reps by myself):

    Squat Multipower (legs) 100 kg (220 lbs) NOW 130 kg (286 lbs) +30%
    Lat Machine (back) 80 kg (176 lbs) NOW 90 kg (198 lbs) +12,5%
    Bench Press with Dumbbells (chest) 30 kg each (66 lbs) NOW 36 kg (79,2) +20%
    Military Press with Dumbbells (shoulders) 24 kg each (52,8 lbs) NOW 30 kg (66 lbs)+25%
    Dumbbells Curls (biceps - seated) 24 kg each (52,8 lbs) NOW 30 kg (66 lbs) +25%
    Dumbbells Curls (triceps - lying down) 18 kg each (39,6 lbs) NOW 22 kg (48,4 lbs) +22,2%
    Last edited by BJJ; 10-29-2009 at 04:41 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ythrashin View Post
    ...Perhaps "istologic decay" is just another term for that...
    I wish I could ask him but since what happened with that pusillanimous, I guess it will remain an "unasked query".

    Though, some vets could intervene and clarify but I see none of them around this thread, unfortunately.

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