Sling shot training

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How Many of you are using this and do you like it?

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so far its 100%....lol

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[D7M]

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http://forums.steroid.com/showpost.p...95&postcount=2

[PC650]

ive actually been using it for over a year my bodybuilder buddy loves it. i love the whole idea behind it

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http://forums.steroid.com/showpost.p...95&postcount=2

[ranging1]

tried it and found i over trainined fast

even on reloads i over trained fast, deloads didnt allow me to recover enough and still stay in overtrained state

however it does seems to work for alot of people, guess everyone is different

[VASCULAR VINCE]

the biggest bodybuilders in my gym use slingshot training....it contains the first real mass buildidng secrets of the bodybuilding legends.....just look at tricky jackson.....dave palumbo!!!!!...i freakin luv it!!!!

[xlxBigSexyxlx]

I've been wanting to try it, but its like reading a novel trying to get through all those posts lol

[Ronnie Rowland]

tried it and found i over trainined fast

even on reloads i over trained fast, deloads didnt allow me to recover enough and still stay in overtrained state

however it does seems to work for alot of people, guess everyone is different

This means you used too much volume during both reloads and deloads!

[Ronnie Rowland]

I've been wanting to try it, but its like reading a novel trying to get through all those posts lol

I'll simplify it for you!

Run a steroid cycle for 8 weeks. During this 8 week period utilize anywhwere from between 6-12 sets per body part once a week. Protein intake remains high. THIS IS YOUR 8 WEEK RELOAD!

Next, reduce steroid intake by at least half, reduce protein intake by around half and reduce work sets by half for 2 weeks. So if you are doing 8 sets for chest during reload you will only do 4 sets per week during 2 week deload. THIS IS YOUR 2 WEEK DELOAD!

Start another 8 week reload and 2 week deload is complete and so on. It's that simple!

[t-gunz]

don't mean to be rude or come across cocky but why do you need to use steroids? for this

[ranging1]

don't mean to be rude or come across cocky but why do you need to use steroids? for this

coz anyone naturally would overtrain

as to ronnie, i didnt use to much volume

i actually trained at the lower end of ur reload phase

e.g
8 sets for chest
8 sets for back
6 sets foir biceps etc

and i still overtrained

just goes to show everyone is different

and gear was legit,

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I'll simplify it for you!

Run a steroid cycle for 8 weeks. During this 8 week period utilize anywhwere from between 6-12 sets per body part once a week. Protein intake remains high. THIS IS YOUR 8 WEEK RELOAD!

Next, reduce steroid intake by at least half, reduce protein intake by around half and reduce work sets by half for 2 weeks. So if you are doing 8 sets for chest during reload you will only do 4 sets per week during 2 week deload. THIS IS YOUR 2 WEEK DELOAD!

Start another 8 week reload and 2 week deload is complete and so on. It's that simple!

out of those 12 sets does that include your warm up

[hockeyguy]

I'm trying it now. 5 weeks in and my only question for those that run it after the 8 week cycle then cutting everything in half for 2 weeks included your AAS do you jump right back on another 8 weeks cycle of AAS when you reload again? How long do you do this for?

[inheritmylife]

I'm trying it now. 5 weeks in and my only question for those that run it after the 8 week cycle then cutting everything in half for 2 weeks included your AAS do you jump right back on another 8 weeks cycle of AAS when you reload again? How long do you do this for?

Whether or not you use AAS again after a deload, or break as I like to call it, is totally dependent upon your personal goals. Unless bodybuilding or sport puts food in your mouth, I don't think it's a good idea to be running AAS quite so much.

[amcon]

This means you used too much volume during both reloads and deloads!

i actually cut my chest work out from 20 - 24 sets... to 12 - 14 sets and when i re load i am going down to 7 to 8 heavy !!!! sets...

brother i would never ever have tried this but it just totally makes sense... AND I MUST SAY I HAVE NOT HAD A INJURY THAT HAS STOPPED ME WORKING OUT - IF I GET HURT I CAN ALWAYS DROP BACK OR TAKE THAT MUSCLE GROUP OFF FOR A WEEK OR TWO... THEN I RIGHT BACK IN TO IT

[amcon]

coz anyone naturally would overtrain

as to ronnie, i didnt use to much volume

i actually trained at the lower end of ur reload phase

e.g
8 sets for chest
8 sets for back
6 sets foir biceps etc

and i still overtrained

just goes to show everyone is different

and gear was legit,

some thing is wrong here...

[PC650]

^^^^agree, something is wrong if you overtraining at 6 sets for biceps and 8 sets for back

[t-gunz]

yea i agree

[Ronnie Rowland]

coz anyone naturally would overtrain this is absurd! I have more natural clients using slingshot than drug enhanced. I'll say it again and i mean no disrespect-"i think you are confused'!
as to ronnie, i didnt use to much volume

i actually trained at the lower end of ur reload phase

e.g
8 sets for chest
8 sets for back
6 sets foir biceps etc

and i still overtrained I don't think you know the meaning of over-training. However, if you have a heavy labor job and/or get very little sleep I apologize and in that case you could be over-training and would simply need to reduce sets and training days even more so during reloads and deloads. Then you won't over-train.


Just goes to show everyone is different OF COURSE EVERYONE IS DIFFERENT. THATS WHY YOU CHOOSE THE AMOUNT OF SETS YOU ARE CAPABLE OF HANDLING.
and gear was legit,

answers above in bold!

[Ronnie Rowland]

don't mean to be rude or come across cocky but why do you need to use steroids? For this

good question and i am glad you brought this up t-gunz.

I only mentioned steroids because i assumed he was using. I have more natural trainees using slingshot than people on steroids.

[Ronnie Rowland]

whether or not you use aas again after a deload, or break as i like to call it, is totally dependent upon your personal goals. Unless bodybuilding or sport puts food in your mouth, i don't think it's a good idea to be running aas quite so much.

good answer!

It's totally depenednt upon your personal goals. Some do a 10 week cycle and stay off for 6 months, some do 10 weeks on and 10 weeks off. Others never go off. You must do whats right for your goals.

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ronnie could you get my question please..

[Ronnie Rowland]

out of those 12 sets does that include your warm up

I'm sorry I must have missed this question. No the 12 sets do not include warm up sets.

Keep in mind that 12 work sets is a lot. At the present, my wife and I are only doing 8 sets per major body part. Again, warm up sets not included.

It all boils down to finding how many sets you do best with given you do not exceed 12 sets a week. That's what I have been trying to explain to ranging but I don't think he understands.

I have yet to see anyone benefit from doing more that 12 intense work sets per week. For some 12 sets is too many!

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I'm sorry I must have missed this question. No the 12 sets do not include warm up sets.

Keep in mind that 12 work sets is a lot. At the present, my wife and I are only doing 8 sets per major body part. Again, warm up sets not included.

It all boils down to finding how many sets you do best with given you do not exceed 12 sets a week. That's what I have been trying to explain to ranging but I don't think he understands.

I have yet to see anyone benefit from doing more that 12 intense work sets per week. For some 12 sets is too many!

ronnie check out my log and tell me what you think...plz

[eatrainrest]

slingshot methdology is great.... finding what pattern of reloading/deloading works best for you is key... a well as switching rep ranges and exercises through blasts... great routine

[swolnog]

just started STS about 5 wks in and think its working great for me

[010058]

Hey ronnie just got a 12 week cycle of test e/deca/5 weeks dbol. I wanna do stp but how would I run this cycle and incorporate it with ur training system

[Ronnie Rowland]

Hey ronnie just got a 12 week cycle of test e/deca/5 weeks dbol. I wanna do stp but how would I run this cycle and incorporate it with ur training system

Please click on the following link and ask this question in the steroid section and I can answer you! http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=402776

[Machdiesel]

Ive never used the Slingshot method but I am a HUDGE fan of the IRON MAN HIT and that's in the same category. Ill never go back to workking each muscle once a week and working out 5 days(1 or 2 muscles each day). Using this type of workout I get stronger every workout and grow much faster

[Ronnie Rowland]

Ive never used the Slingshot method but I am a HUDGE fan of the IRON MAN HIT and that's in the same category. Ill never go back to workking each muscle once a week and working out 5 days(1 or 2 muscles each day). Using this type of workout I get stronger every workout and grow much faster

The original IRONMAN HIT was void of rest-pause and more effective IMO than the version Dewayne (IRONMAN) posted. With Slingshot you can also workout only 3 days per week using few sets and mostly compound exercises. You can also hit the muscle twice a week. It's set up in a way to accomodate everyone's needs.

Note: I was the originator of the IRONMAN HIT. Dewayne took my ideas, added rest-pause and post them on the web. It was a mess!

[Machdiesel]

Not sure which version I was using but it is the one posted in "Various Training Techniques". I was gonna look at the sling shot but the Iron Man worked so well for me I didnt see a need to change. I was getting stronger every week and loved my results. The Slingshot article is basically a book and I have just been lazy. Im gonna look it over now and see what its all about. If you did create the Iron man THANK YOU!!! I cannot tell you how many people I gave it to and were shocked, and upset they hadnt gotten it sooner. ITS THE REAL DEAL!!!

[Ronnie Rowland]

Not sure which version I was using but it is the one posted in "Various Training Techniques". I was gonna look at the sling shot but the Iron Man worked so well for me I didnt see a need to change. I was getting stronger every week and loved my results. The Slingshot article is basically a book and I have just been lazy. Im gonna look it over now and see what its all about. If you did create the Iron man THANK YOU!!! I cannot tell you how many people I gave it to and were shocked, and upset they hadnt gotten it sooner. ITS THE REAL DEAL!!!

Your welcome. The IRONMAN is very similar to DC Training in that you only train 3 days per week and hit each muscle every 3 rd or 4th day. But, no rest-pause-only straight sets! In general, 3-5 work sets per body part are performed per body part.

Slingshot can be the same thing if you chose but after 8 weeks of training you decrease training volume for 2 week before going back to more volume. That's pretty much all there is to it. Simple, yet effective and user friendly.

[stevey_6t9]

mm little apprehensive about it. never seen pros do it

[Ronnie Rowland]

mm little apprehensive about it. never seen pros do it

Sure they do...http://www.trickyjackson.com/training/index.html

[hockeyguy]

Sure they do...http://www.trickyjackson.com/training/index.html

Good read and congrats to you Ronnie. It would be sweet to be able to train with you for a few months to get a feel for what you truly do. Once again thanks for all your help around here

[Machdiesel]

I'll simplify it for you!

Run a steroid cycle for 8 weeks. During this 8 week period utilize anywhwere from between 6-12 sets per body part once a week. Protein intake remains high. THIS IS YOUR 8 WEEK RELOAD!

Next, reduce steroid intake by at least half, reduce protein intake by around half and reduce work sets by half for 2 weeks. So if you are doing 8 sets for chest during reload you will only do 4 sets per week during 2 week deload. THIS IS YOUR 2 WEEK DELOAD!

Start another 8 week reload and 2 week deload is complete and so on. It's that simple!

Hey where does the blast come in??

[legobricks]

The very first time im reading about this (due to not being on in a while) and im totally digging it! Sounds like ill give it a shot!