First Cycle: Test E & Dbol, Noob *Advice plz*

[DmacsNumeroUno]

Hello all,

I'm looking to start my first real cycle for some decent gains!
I've done my research and have come down with the cycle that I believe I should run. Originally I was thinking about a dbol only cycle but upon further research I found that this is a common beginner mistake, so I decided not to be a wuss and add some Test E.

Height: 6''1
Weight: 185
B.F%: 12%
Training: 3 solid years

Cycle #1:
Weeks 1-4: Dbol (20mgs/day)
Weeks 1-12: Test E (400mgs/week)

I'm looking for any advice before taking this cycle. Im very dedicated to training and have the same mentality when it comes to nutrition. Given this cycle, how much am I looking at gaining? Should anything extra be added?

The hardest thing now is purchasing the actual gear. I've done tons of research looking for legit websites that would ship it, but I don't wanna end up donating my money to some scam artist. I've read too many reviews on websites I wont name about clients who got ripped off and personally, I'd prefer not to be added to that list. I don't wanna break any rules here so please no mentioning any websites in the thread. If you have any tips that can't be mentioned in the thread feel free to message me.

Once again, any suggestions are appreciated. Thanks!

[baseline_9]

hello all,

i'm looking to start my first real cycle for some decent gains!
I've done my research and have come down with the cycle that i believe i should run. Originally i was thinking about a dbol only cycle but upon further research i found that this is a common beginner mistake, so i decided not to be a wuss and add some test e.

Height: 6''1
weight: 185
b.f%: 12%
training: 3 solid years

cycle #1:
Weeks 1-4: Dbol (20mgs/day)
weeks 1-12: Test e (400mgs/week)

i'm looking for any advice before taking this cycle. Im very dedicated to training and have the same mentality when it comes to nutrition. Given this cycle, how much am i looking at gaining? Should anything extra be added?

The hardest thing now is purchasing the actual gear. I've done tons of research looking for legit websites that would ship it, but i don't wanna end up donating my money to some scam artist. I've read too many reviews on websites i wont name about clients who got ripped off and personally, i'd prefer not to be added to that list. I don't wanna break any rules here so please no mentioning any websites in the thread. If you have any tips that can't be mentioned in the thread feel free to message me.

Once again, any suggestions are appreciated. Thanks!

im no expert but the first thing the vets will say is wats your pct look like, they will posibly reccomend colmid nolva 50 50 50 50, 40 40 20 20 with maybe an ai.

Another tip is dont buy off the net, you will be scammed big time. No personal experience but know people who have been, unless you can pm a mod and get a good online source just get it from the gym m8, ask around and u will get a source.

Check out my thread at the top of the list now, **250 mg test cycle**, getting great gains on a small dose atm.

If i could have done 1 thing i would of added prop or dianabol at the start for 4 weeks to feel it straight away, so keep the dianabol in there.

Gd luck m8

[vatochingon]

im no expert but the first thing the vets will say is wats your pct look like, they will posibly reccomend colmid nolva 50 50 50 50, 40 40 20 20 with maybe an ai.

Another tip is dont buy off the net, you will be scammed big time. No personal experience but know people who have been, unless you can pm a mod and get a good online source just get it from the gym m8, ask around and u will get a source.

Check out my thread at the top of the list now, **250 mg test cycle**, getting great gains on a small dose atm.

If i could have done 1 thing i would of added prop or dianabol at the start for 4 weeks to feel it straight away, so keep the dianabol in there.

Gd luck m8

what is a mod?? you can pm them asking for a source??

[mikey24]

sounds like your going fishin.

[sigman roid]

what is a mod?? you can pm them asking for a source??

Most mods have stopped doing source checks

[big_k]

Whats your age?

[baseline_9]

what is a mod?? you can pm them asking for a source??

A mod is a moderator on this forum BTW dont look like they will source check for you tho anymore

[Big]

you can pm them asking for a source??

no, you can not.

[cavtrooper26]

Damn, I'm a noob and even I can smell the fish in this post

[dec11]

Damn, I'm a noob and even I can smell the fish in this post

stick aroud and you'll soon see shoals of em!

[Kibble]

Hello all,

I'm looking to start my first real cycle for some decent gains!
I've done my research and have come down with the cycle that I believe I should run. Originally I was thinking about a dbol only cycle but upon further research I found that this is a common beginner mistake, so I decided not to be a wuss and add some Test E.

Height: 6''1
Weight: 185
B.F%: 12%
Training: 3 solid years

Cycle #1:
Weeks 1-4: Dbol (20mgs/day)
Weeks 1-12: Test E (400mgs/week)

I'm looking for any advice before taking this cycle. Im very dedicated to training and have the same mentality when it comes to nutrition. Given this cycle, how much am I looking at gaining? Should anything extra be added?

The hardest thing now is purchasing the actual gear. I've done tons of research looking for legit websites that would ship it, but I don't wanna end up donating my money to some scam artist. I've read too many reviews on websites I wont name about clients who got ripped off and personally, I'd prefer not to be added to that list. I don't wanna break any rules here so please no mentioning any websites in the thread. If you have any tips that can't be mentioned in the thread feel free to message me.Once again, any suggestions are appreciated. Thanks!

OP, that is what they call fishing. It is basically trying to outsmart people into sending you a source. If you do the proper research you will be able to find a source. There is also a section in the stickies labeled "How not to get scammed". Check it out.

Also, you never could ask the mods for a source. A few of them were doing S"Source Checks", which means that you PM them WITH a source, and they tell you if it is g2g or not. I was one of the lucky ones who got several replies, I just got carried away.

[big_k]

a shit ton of ppl view this site, and I am sure there is more than 1 clever scammer reading threads that can PM you some "amazing" sources that will just empty your wallet

[dec11]

be wary, sum well established ppl with alot of posts have been banned for scamming

[Kibble]

Yeah one tried to get me. He offered me some dirt cheap enanthate and dbol, and even led me to another website. Luckily enough I was also reading the stickies at the same time, and I PMd a mod. They took care of it, and he was gone. They were already suspicious of him

[Kibble]

a shit ton of ppl view this site, and I am sure there is more than 1 clever scammer reading threads that can PM you some "amazing" sources that will just empty your wallet

Exactly. If you post up some attempt for a source, then you are asking to get scammed. It would be too easy for them to convince you to send them a large check. Besides, if someone has a legit source, I doubt that they will throw it all over to every new user

[CMonkey]

Yeah one tried to get me. He offered me some dirt cheap enanthate and dbol, and even led me to another website. Luckily enough I was also reading the stickies at the same time, and I PMd a mod. They took care of it, and he was gone. They were already suspicious of him

hmmmmm........now who could that have been!!Jut

[Kibble]

Yeah it was

[stevey_6t9]

maybe raid a near by chemist for some lol

[Free Will]

maybe raid a near by chemist for some lol

your an idiot and there is no need for suggestions like that .....the op needs to stick around this site a little longer and learn a lot and read every sticky he can and then after being a trusted and sound member ....well lets just say good things come to those who wait

[DmacsNumeroUno]

Whats your age?

Im 20, the reason I've been doing research on the web is because I have a source at the gym, but hes looking to charge a ridiculous amount just for being the middle man... And my other source is just taking way too long on closing the deal (kinda sketchy). But I found that buying off the internet isn't at all easier, every website has up and down reviews...

[DmacsNumeroUno]

your an idiot and there is no need for suggestions like that .....the op needs to stick around this site a little longer and learn a lot and read every sticky he can and then after being a trusted and sound member ....well lets just say good things come to those who wait

I understand where your coming from and I respect trying to keep this site secure. I'm just tired of waiting, it feels like I'll never get this cycle going. I have been doing research for a while now and am eager to get started, nevertheless I'll drop a couple lines on some threads and get myself a decent reputation.

[DmacsNumeroUno]

Exactly. If you post up some attempt for a source, then you are asking to get scammed. It would be too easy for them to convince you to send them a large check. Besides, if someone has a legit source, I doubt that they will throw it all over to every new user

True. I need to get rid of this "Newbie" status.. quick...

[feeldapump89]

If you had furthered your research you would have found out you are too young to be running a cycle. But if you must the only advice I can lend is just stay off the net. Fork out the extra cash to your source at the gym if thats what it means. Your better off over paying a local source than paying less and probably getting scammed on the net.

[DmacsNumeroUno]

So far thats looking like the best option. How do you feel about the cycle, given my age and other stats. Is 400mgs/week of Test for 12 wks sound decent? Or should I consider dropping the dosage a bit? Also, should I consider some nolva... This cycle seems to get more and more expensive as I go on.