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[Ronnie Rowland]

ronnie...you say the deload... allows the body to grow for a bit longe...r before leveling off... ..how does this relate to mike mentzer and dc training....low volume training?????

A lot of people who begin DC Training gain strength at a rapid rate at the beginning but the gains level off fast. The same thing happens to people using Slingshot Training during the 2 week deload-the gains are fast, but short lived.

Mentzer made some great gains when he reduced volume. Why? Because had been over-training! His mistake was reducing volume too much in his latter days. Mentzer was a genetic freak who gained most of his muscle mass doing 6-12 intense sets per body part once a week during his competitive years! Later in life he went with very low volume (1-2 sets per week) but he never gained anymore size with such little work. He was only able to maintain some of what he had built at that point.

NOTE: Mentzer sold a lot of books-hence made a ton of money by saying only 1-2 work sets per week was needed. Many who were looking for an easy way out bought into his 1-2 sets per week hogwash. Too bad it doesn't work because it would save us a lot of time in the gym.

[Juicedupmonkey]

Okay so i'm either going to do a 16 week cycle or a 20 week cycle, and i'm gonna dose it as shown here. Test is dosed at 250mg/ml and EQ is 300mg/ml so planning on just doing 2ml each a week. That might change though when the time comes, I'd like to not go over 1000 but it's just easier dosing it at 2ml instead of trying to do 500 which is 1ml + 2/3rd's of a ml so 1.66ml
Week 1-6 (reload): Test Enanthate 500mgs/week
Week 1-6 (reload): Equipose 600mgs/week
Week 7-8 (deload): Test Enanthate 250mgs/week
Week 7-8 (deload): Equipose 600mgs/week
Week 9-14 (reload): Test Enanthate 500mgs/week
Week 9-14 (reload): Equipose 600mgs/week
Week 15-16 (deload): Test Enanthate 250mgs/week
Week 15-16 (deload): Equipose 300mgs/ml
Week 1-20 : Armidex 1mg/ed (Comes in 1mg caps so can't split it in half) Last cycle I did I definatly noticed Gyno coming on, So i'm taking Arimidex every time I cycle now.

Then PCT after with nolva/Clomid combo Nolva: 40/40/20/20 Clomid:150/150/100/50... or something similar to that, my other option of the 20 week cycle is the same just extend the reload another 2 weeks each time. Ronnie you said to just do HCG at the end of the cycle and then do a full blown PCT, what would my dosing be for HCG if I were to just do it at the end? And at which week would i start the HCG? I've only ever done HCG throughout a cycle never after so i'm kinda "hazy" on the protocol of HCG post cycle

[Ronnie Rowland]

okay so i'm either going to do a 16 week cycle or a 20 week cycle, and i'm gonna dose it as shown here. Test is dosed at 250mg/ml and eq is 300mg/ml so planning on just doing 2ml each a week. That might change though when the time comes, i'd like to not go over 1000 but it's just easier dosing it at 2ml instead of trying to do 500 which is 1ml + 2/3rd's of a ml so 1.66ml
week 1-6 (reload): Test enanthate 500mgs/week
week 1-6 (reload): Equipose 600mgs/week
week 7-8 (deload): Test enanthate 250mgs/week
week 7-8 (deload): Equipose 600mgs/week (reduce to 300 per week during deload)
week 9-14 (reload): Test enanthate 500mgs/week (increase to 750 per week during second reload phase)
week 9-14 (reload): Equipose 600mgs/week
week 15-16 (deload): Test enanthate 250mgs/week
week 15-16 (deload): Equipose 300mgs/ml
week 1-20 : Armidex 1mg/ed (comes in 1mg caps so can't split it in half) last cycle i did i definatly noticed gyno coming on, so i'm taking arimidex every time i cycle now.(use only 1 mgs eod at the most-you need some estrogen to grow and prevent joint pain)

then pct after with nolva/clomid combo nolva: 40/40/20/20 clomid:150/150/100/50... Or something similar to that, my other option of the 20 week cycle is the same just extend the reload another 2 weeks each time. Ronnie you said to just do hcg at the end of the cycle and then do a full blown pct, what would my dosing be for hcg if i were to just do it at the end? take hcg at 2500 iu evey other day for 14 days and at which week would i start the hcg? when doing a modifed pct start at beginning of each deloads. When doing a full blown start during next reload which is after deload. I've only ever done hcg throughout a cycle never after so i'm kinda "hazy" on the protocol of hcg post cycle

above in bold..

[VASCULAR VINCE]

A lot of people who begin DC Training gain strength at a rapid rate at the beginning but the gains level off fast. The same thing happens to people using Slingshot Training during the 2 week deload-the gains are fast, but short lived.

Mentzer made some great gains when he reduced volume. Why? Because had been over-training! His mistake was reducing volume too much in his latter days. Mentzer was a genetic freak who gained most of his muscle mass doing 6-12 intense sets per body part once a week during his competitive years! Later in life he went with very low volume (1-2 sets per week) but he never gained anymore size with such little work. He was only able to maintain some of what he had built at that point.

NOTE: Mentzer sold a lot of books-hence made a ton of money by saying only 1-2 work sets per week was needed. Many who were looking for an easy way out bought into his 1-2 sets per week hogwash. Too bad it doesn't work because it would save us a lot of time in the gym.

ronnie....did mentzer gain...when he reduced sets to 2 a week???in latter days???

[Ronnie Rowland]

ronnie....did mentzer gain...when he reduced sets to 2 a week???in latter days???

Doubtful!