tren cycle help needed

[got fina?]

In mu honest opinion i would hold off. You mentioned your at 17% bf which is kinda high, Which leads me to wonder how your diet is.

I would recommend you get down a little more before taking anything. You see much better results when your leaner. You also mentioned you are bulking, but are already at 17%. Are you gonna be able to get down in bf in the future? Do u think u have the knowledge to get back down in the future? These are all questions i woudl ask myself.

I personally dont think steroids are for anybody that cant get low in Bf.

Good luck!

[dazell]

its not 17 i checked yesterday its 14 but i dont think thats a fair statement to make that only ripped people should use steroids i think that steroids are there to help people achieve goals like strength or power,it helps recovery and lets you train to the max and withstand the intense workouts and at certain times of the yeari am at different weight levels like everyone else depends what im trying to gain or achieve you who is giving your fair opinion and advice should know that to bulk up and get bigger and gain muscle you take on a certain percentage of fat with that muscle so in order to get bigger i must take on fat too and when im done bulking i will then change my training programme and change to a less carb packed diet and use some cutting agent like clen or eca to get nearer to where i want to be so yo werent very helpful but thanks anyway

[RANA]

its not 17 i checked yesterday its 14 but i dont think thats a fair statement to make that only ripped people should use steroids i think that steroids are there to help people achieve goals like strength or power,it helps recovery and lets you train to the max and withstand the intense workouts and at certain times of the yeari am at different weight levels like everyone else depends what im trying to gain or achieve you who is giving your fair opinion and advice should know that to bulk up and get bigger and gain muscle you take on a certain percentage of fat with that muscle so in order to get bigger i must take on fat too and when im done bulking i will then change my training programme and change to a less carb packed diet and use some cutting agent like clen or eca to get nearer to where i want to be so yo werent very helpful but thanks anyway

I disagree when it comes to tren. You stated earlier that you were 15%-17% two days ago now your 14%? You need to be more accurate when it comes to stats. I've seen here when people say they are 13-17% bf are usually at 20%, not saying that about you but it does happen. Having said that, I know plenty of people that take roids that are 20%, but they are about 260 lbs and very muscular. But with tren your tend to get more sides with higher bf%.

[dazell]

I disagree when it comes to tren. You stated earlier that you were 15%-17% two days ago now your 14%? You need to be more accurate when it comes to stats. I've seen here when people say they are 13-17% bf are usually at 20%, not saying that about you but it does happen. Having said that, I know plenty of people that take roids that are 20%, but they are about 260 lbs and very muscular. But with tren your tend to get more sides with higher bf%.

thanks for the honesty so what would yo recommend i do?

[RANA]

thanks for the honesty so what would yo recommend i do?

It's hard to determine if this is going to be your 4th or 5th cycle, your writing was is somewhat compressed.

Having said that are you looking to run a short or long ester?