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    well i figured the side effects (the suppression of the hpta) would be more pronounced due to the androgenic effects of sustanon...i ran clomid+nolvadex from day one because i suspected that i might be susceptible to gynecomastia (i had some during adolescence)
    wouldn't my estradiol run rampant if i just quit the SERMs? Most steroid ratings charts online indicate that primo has a higher anabolic/androgenic ration than sust and that it has less side effects compared to sust...am I misinterpreting the info somehow? and I ceased the sust 9 days ago, i only had 2 shots of the sust anyhow

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    Quote Originally Posted by aquila_argentum View Post
    well i figured the side effects (the suppression of the hpta) would be more pronounced due to the androgenic effects of sustanon...i ran clomid+nolvadex from day one because i suspected that i might be susceptible to gynecomastia (i had some during adolescence)
    wouldn't my estradiol run rampant if i just quit the SERMs? Most steroid ratings charts online indicate that primo has a higher anabolic/androgenic ration than sust and that it has less side effects compared to sust...am I misinterpreting the info somehow? and I ceased the sust 9 days ago, i only had 2 shots of the sust anyhow
    So much confusion man.
    What week are you running?

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    i probably should have consulted you guys before i even started planning this cycle...but anyways i decided i'd cut the steroids for the mean time, i mean risking my health and libido for a few pounds of muscle really isn't worth it...i guess my question now is what kind of pct(if any) should i be doing....i did 2 weeks of sus250/week plus 200mg primo/week and my last primo/sus injection was about 10 days ago...during the 2 weeks i did hcg every 3 days-brand name merional, which is a blend of fsh lh hcg (75iu each) i have access to pregnyl but only at the 5000iu dose and i figured that it would be too much...i could just inject 1/10th of the vial and dump the rest...i was taking 20mg/day nolvadex for the 2 weeks i was on the cycle and clomid for the last week...so my cycle ended up like this:
    week 1 250sus 200mg primo 20mg/day nolv 2x merional
    week same
    week 3 20mg nolv 150mg clomid 1x merional

    thanks in advance...

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    Quote Originally Posted by aquila_argentum View Post
    i probably should have consulted you guys before i even started planning this cycle...but anyways i decided i'd cut the steroids for the mean time, i mean risking my health and libido for a few pounds of muscle really isn't worth it...i guess my question now is what kind of pct(if any) should i be doing....i did 2 weeks of sus250/week plus 200mg primo/week and my last primo/sus injection was about 10 days ago...during the 2 weeks i did hcg every 3 days-brand name merional, which is a blend of fsh lh hcg (75iu each) i have access to pregnyl but only at the 5000iu dose and i figured that it would be too much...i could just inject 1/10th of the vial and dump the rest...i was taking 20mg/day nolvadex for the 2 weeks i was on the cycle and clomid for the last week...so my cycle ended up like this:
    week 1 250sus 200mg primo 20mg/day nolv 2x merional
    week same
    week 3 20mg nolv 150mg clomid 1x merional

    thanks in advance...
    Well, it seems from week 3 you already started you pct, but drop the hcg and reduce the clomid.

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