Quote Originally Posted by Swifto View Post
Oral cycle do work, but there far for optimal.

I started using Dbol alone (well, with an AI) about 3 weeks ago and I gained around 3-4lbs. Strength increase. However, I felt very tired and didnt get the sense of well being from the Dbol. Thats because my body didnt like the compound (Dbol) or my serum testosterone was fairly low. I also had a lowered labido. So I added a small dose of Test Prop at 50mg/EOD and problems solved.

Dbol only does work. These is no question, but you may experience the sides. If you can put up with them, or dont get them, great. But adding a small maintenence dose of Test (or more if you want) will be far better.

If you set on an oral only cycle, I'd go with Tbol. That shit gives me energy, well being, boosts my labido, LBM, etc...Its also mild on the HPTA.

Var only is a good choice, perhaps with low dose Proviron for labido, androgenic effects.

Oral only cycles work, even Dbol only. But there not optimal.

If you want an introduction into AAS. I'd go with Haladrol or Tbol for a first run. Then Var. Perhaps Dbol/AI/Proviron, then get into injectables, starting with Test Prop. Thats what I wish I did 4 years ago.
really mate, tbol go to go without test? my nxt is gona be primo only for more quality gains and little hpta hinderence, i had thought of throwing tbol but was worried aboit shutting dwn, its summit i want to avoid frm now on