Quote Originally Posted by gymnerd View Post
I think most or all replies are generic, bro science just my .002
to gym nerds suggestions to RANAS post

though acetate may take 2 weeks to clear ur system its a better option to run rather then the ethantahe versions, since if you were to discontinue using the acetate ester (if sides were to hard to handle) it would clear ur system faster then the ethanthate ester

if you were to opt for an ethantate ester and sides were to arise, its can take alot longer for the compound to clear the system, meaning the sides will continue for alot longer

agree the test does nothing to prevent shut down, but i think RANA was reffering to keeping ur sex drive alive and not shut down

though controlling estro does do more to prevent gyno, prolactin levels have been shown to elevate and worsen estorgenic side effects

contollling prolactin is vital to help prevent estorgenic side effects arising, using something to directly combat estrogenic side effects isnt effective if prolactin levels are promoting them

just take a look at a pregnant women, when their pregnant prolacin levels are high which promotes estrogenic side effects in them,


agree with ur complete bro science since it is, i think what needs to be adressed is why after discontinueing both test and tren at the end of ur cycle (which ever ester you choose), u should discontinue ur tren ester in a manner that will results in the tren clearing ur system faster then the testerone does

this would allow better recovery of the HPTA since tren is more suprresive then test, but also becuase if tren clears the body before the test it will allow for better recovery both physicaly and psycologicaly

reasons why is u will expereince less tren sides towards end of ur cycle

but also becuase if tren clears the system before testerone, once test levels fall below baseline the HPTA system can begin to recover on PCT since tren will not be suppressing it (hopefully)

if test levels fall below baseline BUT tren is still presently high in ur system the HPTA cannot recover, and u can be stuck suppressed with no sex drive and of course fina dick


also the use of shorter esters is better for PCT protocol, since the esters will clear the system faster

following a normal PCT protocol, dosages are higher of both nolva and clomid becuase they are helping to combat the rapid fall in androgens, aswell as huge estrogen levels, plus promote HPTA recovery

if longer esters are used this PCT protocol is incorrect for the first week or 2, becuase longer esters take longer to clear the system (halve lives), meaning the standard PCT protocol wouldnt work for it since in a time where ur using both nolvadex and clomid, ur still have above baseline hormones levels, meaning ur HPTA still isnt recovering

^^^^ but maybe PCT protocol is for another thread

what im addressing here is using shorter esters is better catered to the comman PCT protocols advised on this board

longer esters i think need to be catered for