So basically i need to protein and creatine it up for a while, get my bf% low and get my diet right before trying to make permanent and large gains with aas? I will certainly get it together before i start puttin anymore into myself. And by no means do i feel like i am ready i wont lie, its just easy and i like the easy gains, but i guess if i dont put in the time its not gonna put in for me either huh? And as far as the other guy goes, he is gonna get it one way or another i just get it for him. Plus he's 35 yrs old so its a lil diff for him i assume lol