Test E/Dbol Cycle

[MeanMachine45]

just got my dbol tabs today and im startin the 1st of february so im pretty excited..
Ricer your body is weight is somewhat close to mine, im at 216 but im alot more shorter and stalkier..
your logs have been extremely helpful but i still have a couple questions and concerns..like..

1.)does it matter what time of the day you pin yourself?
2.)and should i start at 40mg of dbol and 250 of the test on day one or start with just 20mg of the dbol and gradually increase to 40mg?

[Ricer]

I try to Pin Monday Nights and Thursday Nights.

I would do the Dbol @ 40mg through out the 4 weeks. Make sure you take them the same time every day to keep your blood levels stable.

[MeanMachine45]

appreicate it man..
i feel like a little kid for christmas, my cycle starts monday night,i did my max outs today on bench just to get a feel for where im at, bench is at 305x1, it was alot higher last year for football and wrestling but i started to get lazy with it
im sure ill have plenty of questions through my cycle and ill come here for the answers as often as i can for reasurance..
did you get alot of water weight off the dbol?
i know some is to be expected and everyones body is different but i was just wondering..
and where do you usually pin yourself?everyone has said the rear end is the easiest and best..
but i do appreciate any help and adive you guys can give me..

[Ricer]

Week 8 Started today....

Weight: 229lbs

Bloat from the dbol has diminished.
Strength still climbing up, but I don't look as "full" as when I was on the dbol.
Hopefully this mean, I am gaining lean muscle mass.

Sides: Trying to combat the gyno symptoms I got. Increased the dosage of L-dex to .7 ED.....Honestly I think Ldex has just gotten rid of my bloat and not helped with the gyno. I just started Nolva from AA-R last night @ .30mgs. Will run it ED for 7 days to see if it goes away.

Pimples on my back, 4-5 nothing crazy.

Feeling very sleepy all the time, tired, always snoozing.

I am also increasing the test to 800mcgs a week for the remaining 4 weeks.
Will post pics at the end of this week.

[Aizen Sosuke]

I wouldn't up the dose to 800 if I were you and I hope you mean mg and not mcg. Stick to the original plan trust me. The nolvadex should be run at 20mg/day if your gyno symptoms don't decrease double the dose. It isn't a wise idea to almost double your test dosage when you are having symptoms of gyno. Good luck

[Ricer]

Week 9 started today.

Weight 227

I Have upped the dosage to 1.5ml shots 2x a week.
I am also starting Winny tomorrow 25mg x2 day. (Every 12 hours)

I feel the bloat from dbol must be almost if not completely gone, so let's see what Winny will do. I'm hoping for some hardening and some crazy vascularity.

Sides: Pimples have diminished alot. Maybe 1 now. No other sides known...

Been on ADEX .6 ED and Nolva 20mg ED to help with the gyno symptoms. It has helped a bunch. I am going to continue to do it perhaps lower it down to .5 and keep nolva @ 20mg.

I am slacking on pictures.

Any advice on the winny would be great....strength gains, joints, vascular, lean muscle...

[Karo]

I have only seen results from Winny when I was on a cutting diet and very lean. Even then the results were not dramatic. I would not consider taking it again unless I was very lean (spring/summer). I think you'll be disappointed with Winny and i'd suggest you listen to the guys that have already offered advice. I would save it for a spring/summer cutting cycle if it were me.
For someone that has gone from 205-229lbs you don't seem very excited about it! Just saying.

[Aizen Sosuke]

Ok if you are taking nolvadex for gyno then arimidex is not a good idea. Drop it right away. As far as winstrol I already gave you my advice.

[Ricer]

I'm not turning advices away guy. Hence I post on here to get as many opinions as possible. I also have a few local friends who are also into AAS and from personal experience have delt with taking winny at the end of their cycle.

I have heard that running an AI and nolva contradict eachother but isn't that a non proven fact? What is the the problem with both being ran?

[stevey_6t9]

save your nolva for pct. just run arimidex at .25mg eod if you experience sides

[Ricer]

save your nolva for pct. just run arimidex at .25mg eod if you experience sides

Ya, did that for over 3 weeks, had to up to dosage to ED.

[Ricer]

Week 10 starts today. Almost done!

Weight 229
BF: is for sure lower, will have some final result pics

Sides: Some pimples on my back, gyno symptom is gone. (been using Nolva for the past 2 weeks @ 20mg ED.) Ya, it could be hindering my gains but strength is still going up.

Also on week 2 of winny @ 50mg ED split twice a day. I can say for sure my muscles feel like a rock, it's a crazy pump at the gym.

Dropped the adex to .25 EOD again, and may even do nolva EOD from here on. Any suggestions on that?

[LiftedDuramax2007]

Lets see some up to date pics

And I agree it doesnt look like youve done 2 previous cycles?

What happened after your cycles that you lost all the weight?

Or did you just start off way before you maxed out naturally?

[Ricer]

Week 11

Weight:230

Sides: Gyno symptoms have pretty much vanished. Dropped the Nova to 10mg EOD and brough adex to .25 eod. Few pimples on my back, nothing crazy.

Strength is still climbing, could be due to the winny tabs also...
Was able to bench 350 2x on friday. Hoping for more this week.

1 more week of pinning and running the winstrol 2 weeks after my last pin.

[Ricer]

Well I'm on what would be week 13.

Last shot was last thursday.

Weight- 226
BF- way lower then when I started.

I am still on the dbol and will be running it for 2 more weeks then starting my pct.