thanks everyone for the input.. I've only been on the site for about a week so I know I have a lot to learn.. So I'm not going to go threw with the deca after all lol but I've been reading that u guys recommend test for a beginners cycle does that require takin anything with that?? All I'm really trying to do is get bigger I've recently change my diet based on what I've been reading that was probably my biggest draw back last year cuz I would hit the gym 4-5 a week but couldn't gain any weight so I know I'm going to get bigger with the diet but I'm looking for just a lil more to help me reach my goals