need a great post workout supplement

[IM708]

What I;ve seen recommended by all the top guys (not just pros, I mean the top trainers) is 50 grams protein and 100 grams carbs. That works out to be 2 scoops protein, 1/2 cup oats and the rest dextrose/waxy maize/maltodextrin. Gotta be mostly fast digesting carbs. Have your post post workout meal 1-2 hours later depending on your hunger (should be under two hours, if it's not make yourself eat) which would contain another 50/at least 70 split of protein and carbs..

For supplements you could use 30 grams BCAA's sipped on during your workout and 25 grams glutamine post workout.

Whoa there that is WAY too high of a dose, that's ridiculous amounts of both especially since glutamine hasn't been proven worth anything. 10g BCAAs + 5g leucine intraworkout and 0g glutatime is more realistic...

[javerton]

Whoa there that is WAY too high of a dose, that's ridiculous amounts of both especially since glutamine hasn't been proven worth anything. 10g BCAAs + 5g leucine intraworkout and 0g glutatime is more realistic...

It's what all the top guys recommend - Iron addict, DC, Skip, Dave Tate and the other guys at westside and elitefts (maybe a little dirtier food methods though:P).

It's not too high of a dose, it's fine. 10 grams of bcaas will have little effect, think about it, it's just amino acids.

[IM708]

It's what all the top guys recommend - Iron addict, DC, Skip, Dave Tate and the other guys at westside and elitefts (maybe a little dirtier food methods though:P).

It's not too high of a dose, it's fine. 10 grams of bcaas will have little effect, think about it, it's just amino acids.

This post doesn't even warrant a response, jesus...


Here's a word of advice for people, don't take this guys advice.

[javerton]

This post doesn't even warrant a response, jesus...


Here's a word of advice for people, don't take this guys advice.

Yet you responded. I prefer to follow the advice of guys who have brought their physique along with hundreds of other trainees to a point of far above average than people who post things like that with absolutely no references and reason as to the recommendation.

[IM708]

Yet you responded. I prefer to follow the advice of guys who have brought their physique along with hundreds of other trainees to a point of far above average than people who post things like that with absolutely no references and reason as to the recommendation.

Why don't you post this "wonderful" information so all of us ignorant people can see the light .

By your response your also telling me that you're a parrot. Try having an original thought.

[IM708]

Yet you responded. I prefer to follow the advice of guys who have brought their physique along with hundreds of other trainees to a point of far above average than people who post things like that with absolutely no references and reason as to the recommendation.

Ok then, here's 5 studies showing glutamine supplementation to be useless...

[javerton]

Why don't you post this "wonderful" information so all of us ignorant people can see the light .

By your response your also telling me that you're a parrot. Try having an original thought.

Ok then, here's 5 studies showing glutamine supplementation to be useless...

You have just contradicted yourself. You call me a parrot, yet then you post up some studies to prove your point - you're simply doing that same thing. So gj on that one. Every opinion you own is based at least in part to someone elses points made - that is a null point and really you just made yourself look idiotic; sorry.

Studies can be very misleading depending on the type of people they train, teh definitions of trained and untrained individuals can be very ambiguous. The fact of the matter is, the guys I listed, among many others recommend this (I had it wrong actually, it was 20 grams glutamine pwo, not 25) and the fact they've experimented and gotten real results proves it, as well as my own experience - but of course that's one case, I'm talking about thousands. Thanks.

[IM708]

You have just contradicted yourself. You call me a parrot, yet then you post up some studies to prove your point - you're simply doing that same thing. So gj on that one. Every opinion you own is based at least in part to someone elses points made - that is a null point and really you just made yourself look idiotic; sorry.

Studies can be very misleading depending on the type of people they train, teh definitions of trained and untrained individuals can be very ambiguous. The fact of the matter is, the guys I listed, among many others recommend this (I had it wrong actually, it was 20 grams glutamine pwo, not 25) and the fact they've experimented and gotten real results proves it, as well as my own experience - but of course that's one case, I'm talking about thousands. Thanks.

So your going to ignore science? On top of that you still havn't posted your sources. All you have been doing is trying to make yourself sound witty by filling your posts with a bunch of fluff. Now let me repeat myself, go post up all this wonderful information from these people. Do that, or stop wasting my time. I already did so now it's your turn.