Tren A dosage and pct question??

[The Observer]

Age: 29
Height: 5'9
Weight: 194lbs
BF%: 15
Cycle Exp: first cycle






Just wanted to get your guys opinion on how much Tren A should I use. Is 75mg ED or 150mg EOD just too much/harsh? Should I just stick to 100mg EOD (dont want to pin ED)?

I am currently on my first 20 week slingshot cycle and since I decided to turn to Tren at the halfway point my PCT will probably need work as well. Any help would be great. Here is my cycle which I;m currently 4 weeks in. I am confused if I should I use HCG throughout week 10-20 or just add to my pct....or do I need it all?



Letro 1.25mg EOD - week 1-20
D-Bol 40mg - week 1-4
Test E 500mg - week 1-8
Deca 400mg - week 1-8
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Test E 250mg - week 9-10
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Tren A 150mg EOD - week 11-18
Test E 700mg - week 11-18
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Test E 250mg - week 19-20
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PCT - any advice???

[gonzo6183]

Holt Sh*t man that has to be one of (if not the) worst first cycle I have ever seen did you not do any reasearch? What happened to the basic 500mg week Test E or C? maybe 4 weeks of dbol...

[stevey_6t9]

Terrible cycle for a first. Dont do it.

[wanna_be_big]

this link will help you a lot:

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=413262

[Chev]

horrible cycle man.

[RANA]

This is a horrible 1st cycle, regarding slingshot did you consult Ronnie about this cycle? Also to be in the middle of your cycle and ask about PCT is wrong, you should have had it ready to go just in case you have to get off cycle.

[RANA]

Age: 29
Height: 5'9
Weight: 194lbs
BF%: 15
Cycle Exp: first cycle






Just wanted to get your guys opinion on how much Tren A should I use. Is 75mg ED or 150mg EOD just too much/harsh? Should I just stick to 100mg EOD (dont want to pin ED)?

I am currently on my first 20 week slingshot cycle and since I decided to turn to Tren at the halfway point my PCT will probably need work as well. Any help would be great. Here is my cycle which I;m currently 4 weeks in. I am confused if I should I use HCG throughout week 10-20 or just add to my pct....or do I need it all?



Letro 1.25mg EOD - week 1-20
D-Bol 40mg - week 1-4
Test E 500mg - week 1-8
Deca 400mg - week 1-8
-----------------------
Test E 250mg - week 9-10
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Tren A 150mg EOD - week 11-18
Test E 700mg - week 11-18
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Test E 250mg - week 19-20
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PCT - any advice???

age/29
height/ 5'9
weight /188 lbs
body fat%? /9-10%
years training /1.5
pct knowledge /only what i know online.


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Why do you say that it's not a good cycle?

Not sure if should be running this cycle, by your stats you went up 5-6% bf in one month.

[tripmachine]

Not sure if should be running this cycle, by your stats you went up 5-6% bf in one month.

hahahaha or it's just another liar on board..... ? come on what's up with these crazy posts going on here now a days... ?

[bjpennnn]

you missed the 5-10 145 18 years old

[tripmachine]

you missed the 5-10 145 18 years old

hahahaha i remember that one tooo.... lol

[lovestospooge23]

shitty ass cycle...

[The Observer]

I didn't know how to measure correctly before and now got my real BF percentage. First off, I went with the Novice Cycle #2-1 that is listed on the main page of the site so how is this such a terrible cycle!? Only difference is Test E instead of C and I use Letro instead of Nolva. Not to mention the cycle duration is different then proposed.

Yes, I did ask Ron what to do and am following his direction. The only thing I changed was the second part of the cycle which I never advised him about. I am not planning on sticking with the Test and Deca after week 8. Again, how is this so terrible? Test/Deca and Test/Tren cycles are probably one of the most common combination. I just put it all in one 20 week cycle. I have a PCT ready as I told you before BUT since I am going with Tren A, would it have to be changed? Do I need any nolvadex or hcg? If my cycle is so terrible what do you suggest? That whole Test only cycle is out the window, I am trying to get as much out of my twenty week cycle as possible so I am not going to argue you about that. If someone wants to give me some advice other than "you should have only done a test cyce." ....I'm all ears. I forgot to mention that I also added Winstrol in my cycle at week 4-8 at 100 EOD. Which I also consulted Ron about and he suggested that I add it at that exact point in the cycle.

PCT at the moment as stated in Novice Cycle 2-1
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Clomid
week 1: 300/100/100/100/100/100/100
week 2: 100/100/100/100/50/50/50
week 3: 50/50/50/50/50/50/50



PS. Don't call me a liar for when you do not know me genius. If you don't wanna answer my questions than move on to the next thread. Thanks for the link wannabebig, I read that a few days ago. I am set on the fact that I want to cycle Tren. Which is why I going with Tren A instead of E, incase I need to abort because of the sides.

[CanYouDigIt]

18 years old, at 145 pounds dosent have anything doing cycles, and you cannot read stickys on these forums so your far away from gear,

and if ron told you do this cycle for your first cycle, he should think about your health,

GL -

[The Observer]

18 years old, at 145 pounds dosent have anything doing cycles, and you cannot read stickys on these forums so your far away from gear,

and if ron told you do this cycle for your first cycle, he should think about your health,

GL -

What are you talking about? Look at my stats, who said I am 145lbs...lol. I'm 194lbs. and 29 years old bro.

[The Observer]

Can someone please give me details/specifics why they think this cycle is so terrible.....even to go as far as saying it is the worst cycle they ever seen? I'm confused, disregarding the fact that it is my first cycle.....why is it so terrible? Are my gains going to be minimal? Is it the health issue? What is it?

When I say 1.5 years of training, I do not mean that I walked into the gym for the first time and started lifting for the first time. That is when I made the decision to actually take weight training serious and go 5-7 days a week and train my ass off with a good diet. About 5 years ago I was in the worst shape of my life, I was not working out and weighed 245lbs of total sloppiness. Within a decent period with light weight training and lots of cardio my weight went down to 160lbs or so. This wasn't without trouble because I went from 245lbs to 180lbs to 213lbs to 170lbs to 204lbs to 160lbs which I stayed at for a few years. So I started working out about 5 years ago if you'd like to count that. If I should you pictures of what I looked like before and after I lost and how I looks now...it's just crazy. I feel the need to explain this for some reason. I'll give that, I am hard headed son of bitch and have a problem of going to extremes on nearly everything I do....maybe it's not a problem IMO..lol. BUT, with that said, I STILL do my research to the max. I just have these few questions which I would like answered. Is


Is 75mg ED too much for a first time Tren A user? Why is this cycle so shitty? Can I use HCG when I go into my PCT instead of using within the cycle? How much Nolvadex would you say I should take in my PCT. I am certain that Clomid alone won't be enough after looking into it.

[slimy]

Ronnie's blast cruise cycles are for hardcore bodybuilders that have been doing this for a while. Not recommended for a first cycle. The reason most on this board recommend test only for a first cycle, because everyone is different, and each component reacts differently in each person. So with a test only cycle, you know that all of the gains/sides came from the test and no other component. If you start throwing everything under the sun in your cycle ( test, dbol, deca, tren, winstrol, the kitchen sink) you have no way of knowing which compound gave you the gains and which one gave you the sides. I can't stress this enough, you are on WAY too many drugs.

Most of us remember our first cycle. If we did it right, the gains are amazing. You only get one chance at a first cycle. After your first cycle, you have to use more and more drugs to keep getting gains. Your body never goes back to the way it was.

One last thing, NO TREN ON THE FIRST CYCLE. Example. Where I'm from, we hunt deer. Most use a small caliber rifle. Can you use a machine gun to hunt a deer? Absolutely. The deer will be just as dead with the machine gun as it is with the small caliber rifle. Only problem is the meat is now so riddled with bullets it can't be consumed. Moral of the story, use what you need to get the job done. Small caliber rifle is better than a machine gun for hunting deer. Save the machine gun for blowing up terrorists. Save the tren for when you know how your body will react to putting exogenous hormones in it.

I gave you the information that you asked for, just not the info you wanted to hear.

Good luck.

[The Observer]

Ronnie's blast cruise cycles are for hardcore bodybuilders that have been doing this for a while. Not recommended for a first cycle. The reason most on this board recommend test only for a first cycle, because everyone is different, and each component reacts differently in each person. So with a test only cycle, you know that all of the gains/sides came from the test and no other component. If you start throwing everything under the sun in your cycle ( test, dbol, deca, tren, winstrol, the kitchen sink) you have no way of knowing which compound gave you the gains and which one gave you the sides. I can't stress this enough, you are on WAY too many drugs.

Most of us remember our first cycle. If we did it right, the gains are amazing. You only get one chance at a first cycle. After your first cycle, you have to use more and more drugs to keep getting gains. Your body never goes back to the way it was.

One last thing, NO TREN ON THE FIRST CYCLE. Example. Where I'm from, we hunt deer. Most use a small caliber rifle. Can you use a machine gun to hunt a deer? Absolutely. The deer will be just as dead with the machine gun as it is with the small caliber rifle. Only problem is the meat is now so riddled with bullets it can't be consumed. Moral of the story, use what you need to get the job done. Small caliber rifle is better than a machine gun for hunting deer. Save the machine gun for blowing up terrorists. Save the tren for when you know how your body will react to putting exogenous hormones in it.

I gave you the information that you asked for, just not the info you wanted to hear.

Good luck.

I appreciate it, any helpful advice is a plus regardless if I want to hear it. I'll be thinking a little more before I open up the Tren vial. I was always confused with the fact of using Omnevol by Evolution Labs twice in the past year and half if it's considered a cycle since it technically not a true steroid. That is one hell of of drug, it made be gain about 27lbs (2 cycles) and my strength was through the roof, which is the reason I turned to AAS....I'm just thinking outloud sorry.