I am on 50mg of var ED, this is my first cycle ever; I started experiencing joint pain on day 5. The area in and around my left elbow started to hurt a lot. The next day it was much less and by the 2ndd day, it was gone. On day 9, i was on arms day again and it began to hurt in the same place w/ the same intensity. I was still able to lift the weight and finish my work out, it was just very painful. Day 10 was chest day; same pain except this time, more intense and in both the left and the right! I became worried and started looking for answers, some people are saying that it is due to a lack of water and fatty acids. I can't remember about day 5; perhaps day 9, but day 10 I can definitely say that I did not drink enough water. and I actually ran out of both fish oil and evening primrose oil by day 3 of my cycle. So this seems like it might make sense. I would like to know if anyone else has experienced anything similar with oxandralone only, and if so did they try fish oil and drinking lots of water? Did it help? what other suggestions can help me? I don't want to go off the gear, I have a tight timeline to stick to and I can't continue to work out w/ this much pain everyday either, someone will eventually notice that something is wrong; my gf my parents, brother, etc... No one knows about my cycle except my supplier!