Yo i'm new and I got questions

[MurphDawgg485]

im 20 and serious about lifting. Dude i thought steroids were the answer for me last year when i was 19 and every year before that going back to when i was 15 and lifting thinking i knew everything. Well dude, you dont know everything. Steroids are not some magic freaking tool that get you everything you need just by taking them. Without the correct w/o routine and eating like a freaking horse with the proper nutri. you will seriously hurt yourself, and thats assuming your inleast 24, if you start taking them at 19 without knowing what your doing (which you dont) kiss your future goodbye and look forward to taking viagra the rest of your life and dishing out 2 G's for your first bitch tit surgery cause you will get them with the approach your taking dude. Please reconsider until your older like I have. You have your whole life to take "the juice" man, listen to the guys on here and do some real work and i bet you will be very surprised with the gains you make.

[RyanAlmighty]

im 20 and serious about lifting. Dude i thought steroids were the answer for me last year when i was 19 and every year before that going back to when i was 15 and lifting thinking i knew everything. Well dude, you dont know everything. Steroids are not some magic freaking tool that get you everything you need just by taking them. Without the correct w/o routine and eating like a freaking horse with the proper nutri. you will seriously hurt yourself, and thats assuming your inleast 24, if you start taking them at 19 without knowing what your doing (which you dont) kiss your future goodbye and look forward to taking viagra the rest of your life and dishing out 2 G's for your first bitch tit surgery cause you will get them with the approach your taking dude. Please reconsider until your older like I have. You have your whole life to take "the juice" man, listen to the guys on here and do some real work and i bet you will be very surprised with the gains you make.

I seriously disagree with this...everyone is apt to the same risks when deciding to use. You don't ever not get in a car because you might crash and die do you? There is just as many compounds out there to combat side effects as there is to give you the side effects. Whether you are 19 or 35, you still run the same risks. Nolva, Clomid, HCG. Done. If you know what you are doing in the gym and you know what you should and shouldn't be putting in your mouth, age shouldn't matter. If anything, us younger guys have an advantage at being able to recuperate better than some of the older guys.

If he doesn't know what he is doing; isn't that what this forum is for? His first post gave no indication he did or didn't have a clue about proper exercise and dieting. His dad could be Mr. Olympia and he could know more about proper training/nutrition than anyone on here for all we know. Point being, he asked about a proper first cycle, and that is the kind of responses everyone should have given him. If he didn't do his research and understand the risks involved, that's on him. If he was having a morality issue, he never would have asked for help in the first place. Let him decide whether he is ready or not. All we can do is provide him with the best information possible.

[ghettoboyd]

I seriously disagree with this...everyone is apt to the same risks when deciding to use. You don't ever not get in a car because you might crash and die do you? There is just as many compounds out there to combat side effects as there is to give you the side effects. Whether you are 19 or 35, you still run the same risks. Nolva, Clomid, HCG. Done. If you know what you are doing in the gym and you know what you should and shouldn't be putting in your mouth, age shouldn't matter. If anything, us younger guys have an advantage at being able to recuperate better than some of the older guys.

If he doesn't know what he is doing; isn't that what this forum is for? His first post gave no indication he did or didn't have a clue about proper exercise and dieting. His dad could be Mr. Olympia and he could know more about proper training/nutrition than anyone on here for all we know. Point being, he asked about a proper first cycle, and that is the kind of responses everyone should have given him. If he didn't do his research and understand the risks involved, that's on him. If he was having a morality issue, he never would have asked for help in the first place. Let him decide whether he is ready or not. All we can do is provide him with the best information possible.

im sorry bro but i have to dissagree here....first off had the op checked out the stickys in the steroid forum he could have gotten all the info he was asking about...no one hear exept a few young newbies are going to spoon feed him everything he wants to know,exspecialy at his age....obviously hes going to do watever he wants but most peeps here dont condone the use of aas to teens....if he wants the info its all here just look for it.....my problem with all this is that if he dosent have the desire to do the resurch to learn every aspect of cycling(not just taking the drugs but diet and training too) then hes setting himself up to fail imho....

[RyanAlmighty]

I was not asking for a source brother...... I was basically saying that I don't see how people spend so much money on something without research. Nobody I know would spend that much on an oral form of gh.

Besides, I don't need a source bro- I do not wish to take steroids. I am here for the diet and training advice

I don't believe I was making any reference to you needing a source, or what your intentions on this forum are. I was mearly stating to the thread creator what he should be on the look out for and what to expect.

im sorry bro but i have to dissagree here....first off had the op checked out the stickys in the steroid forum he could have gotten all the info he was asking about...no one hear exept a few young newbies are going to spoon feed him everything he wants to know,exspecialy at his age....obviously hes going to do watever he wants but most peeps here dont condone the use of aas to teens....if he wants the info its all here just look for it.....my problem with all this is that if he dosent have the desire to do the resurch to learn every aspect of cycling(not just taking the drugs but diet and training too) then hes setting himself up to fail imho....

You have a very valid point. When I first starting looking into gear (not actually joining the forum, but doing research) there is A LOT of information and opinions floating around that can be extremely overwhelming. Yes, I did spoon feed him a basic beginners cycle. I wish I was lucky enough for someone to have done with same with me. I would have taken that advice, and researched more into those particulars instead of going through and basically reading every post and profile on every steriod/ancilliary and putting together something myself. Had he asked more in-depth or lack of content related questions, I would have given him the same answer as anyone else on this forum. He gave his age (which I don't discriminate against), height, weight, and hinted at a mass cycle. TestE, Dbol, Basic PCT. I remember how long it took me to figure out just that combination and how long to run it all together for. Had he said, "Hey, I'm 19 - Can someone post a diet/workout/cycle for me? I want to do steriods." My answer would have been completely different. I believe there is a big difference between providing someone a starting point to research into, and handing him everything on a silver platter.

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