Terrorism: The Most Meaningless and Manipulated Word

[Kratos]

You're also attempting to justify the labeling of these people as terrorists because they don't hale from a specific country. Well of course not, they are smart, and they know that they have absolutely no chance of fighting the US military in a traditional battelground scenario involving two sides. Therefore, they engage in a slow and deliberate campaign of guerilla warfare against the United States. I would even say that we have given them what they want, from their continued attacks on targets in the United States, we placed even more US soldiers&civilians in THEIR LAND, making us even easier targets for their campaign.

To understand the complications and intracacies of the Middle Eastern situation, one must make an analgous situation with which to try and identify with the feelings of the people in that region. Imagine for a second, that Saudi Arabia, looking out for their best interests, established a large military base in your hometown, on land your family has owned for a thousand years. Imagine Saudi Arabia's military troops driving through your town on a daily basis, and at times a few troops doing criminal acts with no accountability. Imagine also that Saudi Arabian military planes fly through your country on a daily basis. Furthermore, imagine that members of your family live in a state next door to yours, and that state is at war with Mexico. Yet, Saudi Arabia funnels tons of weaponry and money to Mexico, to help them kill your family members in the adjoining state to yours. I ask you, how would you feel, and how would you respond if this continued for 40 years?

no, it has nothing to do with from where they hail.
it has to do with the acts themselves...for the most part they are attacking civilians and falling under the exact definition of terrorism. They are getting around the rules of engagement by not hailing from a specific country...but the acts are what they are.

I think you're kinda spilling hairs...I mean we don't have to call them terrorists but we have to call them somthing.

Would it make you feel better if they said on the news, "the plane crash does not appear to be jihad related."

then muslims everywhere would cry out "we're not all jihadists"

the word is not important

with this last part, idk, has nothing to do with the word, but rather your sympathy for the cause. I don't like our position in the middle east, I never pretend to. But, you and I have some differnces in how we see the region and its problems. At some point you may change your views, I know over the years I have.

I think the best thing we can do is tighten our borders to immigration from islamic countries. That's the only way this conflict won't go on long after the oil is gone. I see an ultimate win for Islam honestly...I'm not even joking even though I'm about to sound like a nut job. A couple hundred years I see Europe becoming almost totally Muslim. Possibly even the United States. But that doesn't mean I want to fight a pre-emptive war either. I'm pretty sure I can squeek out a lifetime before the planet goes to shit, so that's what I'm aiming to do. I'm all about energy independence (not the dumb ass way Obama is doing it), and I feel we have good options for that. I also trust the free market, and oil isn't going to be cheep forever. Israel will die, I give it about as long as the oil.


the way I see it, once the oil is gone, the most militant countries in the middle east turn into basically central Africa...then nobody gives a damn except maybe UNICEF.

Take away Israel and oil, they'll still hate us. Maybe more then ever. I think this is where you and I differ on the politics. You see the conflict as cause and effect.

anyway I'm just rambeling at this point...I guess what I'm saying is
What's in a name Godfather? Terrorist, islamic freedom fighter...whatever you call these people, it's going to carry a stigma.

[thegodfather]

no, it has nothing to do with from where they hail.
it has to do with the acts themselves...for the most part they are attacking civilians and falling under the exact definition of terrorism. They are getting around the rules of engagement by not hailing from a specific country...but the acts are what they are.

I think you're kinda spilling hairs...I mean we don't have to call them terrorists but we have to call them somthing.

Would it make you feel better if they said on the news, "the plane crash does not appear to be jihad related."

then muslims everywhere would cry out "we're not all jihadists"

the word is not important

with this last part, idk, has nothing to do with the word, but rather your sympathy for the cause. I don't like our position in the middle east, I never pretend to. But, you and I have some differnces in how we see the region and its problems. At some point you may change your views, I know over the years I have.

I think the best thing we can do is tighten our borders to immigration from islamic countries. That's the only way this conflict won't go on long after the oil is gone. I see an ultimate win for Islam honestly...I'm not even joking even though I'm about to sound like a nut job. A couple hundred years I see Europe becoming almost totally Muslim. Possibly even the United States. But that doesn't mean I want to fight a pre-emptive war either. I'm pretty sure I can squeek out a lifetime before the planet goes to shit, so that's what I'm aiming to do. I'm all about energy independence (not the dumb ass way Obama is doing it), and I feel we have good options for that. I also trust the free market, and oil isn't going to be cheep forever. Israel will die, I give it about as long as the oil.


the way I see it, once the oil is gone, the most militant countries in the middle east turn into basically central Africa...then nobody gives a damn except maybe UNICEF.

Take away Israel and oil, they'll still hate us. Maybe more then ever. I think this is where you and I differ on the politics. You see the conflict as cause and effect.

anyway I'm just rambeling at this point...I guess what I'm saying is
What's in a name Godfather? Terrorist, islamic freedom fighter...whatever you call these people, it's going to carry a stigma.

It is cause and effect. The CIA even acknowledges this and has a term for it, its called "blowback." Actions have consequences. The grievances against us are for our continued presence and interference in middle eastern affairs. Might does not make right. I'll give more attention to this post later, I'm pressed for time.

[Kratos]

It is cause and effect. The CIA even acknowledges this and has a term for it, its called "blowback." Actions have consequences. The grievances against us are for our continued presence and interference in middle eastern affairs. Might does not make right. I'll give more attention to this post later, I'm pressed for time.

That's OK, you can skip the justification for terrorism post. I've already heard it all. Although we agree on many things, we just aren't going to on this one.

Is the word incorrectly used? IDK, maybe. Does it matter? I don't think so.