
Originally Posted by
Kratos
no, it has nothing to do with from where they hail.
it has to do with the acts themselves...for the most part they are attacking civilians and falling under the exact definition of terrorism. They are getting around the rules of engagement by not hailing from a specific country...but the acts are what they are.
I think you're kinda spilling hairs...I mean we don't have to call them terrorists but we have to call them somthing.
Would it make you feel better if they said on the news, "the plane crash does not appear to be jihad related."
then muslims everywhere would cry out "we're not all jihadists"
the word is not important
with this last part, idk, has nothing to do with the word, but rather your sympathy for the cause. I don't like our position in the middle east, I never pretend to. But, you and I have some differnces in how we see the region and its problems. At some point you may change your views, I know over the years I have.
I think the best thing we can do is tighten our borders to immigration from islamic countries. That's the only way this conflict won't go on long after the oil is gone. I see an ultimate win for Islam honestly...I'm not even joking even though I'm about to sound like a nut job. A couple hundred years I see Europe becoming almost totally Muslim. Possibly even the United States. But that doesn't mean I want to fight a pre-emptive war either. I'm pretty sure I can squeek out a lifetime before the planet goes to shit, so that's what I'm aiming to do. I'm all about energy independence (not the dumb ass way Obama is doing it), and I feel we have good options for that. I also trust the free market, and oil isn't going to be cheep forever. Israel will die, I give it about as long as the oil.
the way I see it, once the oil is gone, the most militant countries in the middle east turn into basically central Africa...then nobody gives a damn except maybe UNICEF.
Take away Israel and oil, they'll still hate us. Maybe more then ever. I think this is where you and I differ on the politics. You see the conflict as cause and effect.
anyway I'm just rambeling at this point...I guess what I'm saying is
What's in a name Godfather? Terrorist, islamic freedom fighter...whatever you call these people, it's going to carry a stigma.