NEW Cycle advice Please?

[theonlygman]

Hi all,

Have been told that a good cutting cycle would consist of-

Winstrol,
Clenbuterol,
and Anvar,

(Anti Est- arimidex and nolvadex)

Is this goin to be suitable for someone who wants to get cut?

If you were to Add Test to the cycle would it work the same but with extra bulk to the muscles?

6 foot 1
220lbs
Body Fat 20.56

[D7M]

age?

at 20% bf you can cut down significantly before jumping into AAS.

Everyone here preaches cardio and diet for a reason....because it works!

If you don't have that down, all the steroids in the world won't help you.

And FYI, you can cut with test, or really anything. Just depends on your diet and cardio.

[theonlygman]

Age 30.

Sorry My BF is down to 16.79%

I appreciate what yr saying, but what do u think of the cycle, does it make sense to you?
What quantities would you take?

[D7M]

As it stands, it's not a cycle. It's just a bunch of compounds that people think are mainly used for "cutting"

Not trying to be a jerk, but you should do some research on what you want to use, and

propose a cycle for critique.

[theonlygman]

Not Meaning to sound un gratefull, BUT.

I was directed to a site which stated that it WAS a cycle, seeing as U R a obvious Steroid CRITIC, who must know everythin there is to know about steroids, the site suggested the following-



Week Winstrol Clenbuterol Anavar Arimidex Nolvadex
1 50mgs/day 40mcg/day 40mgs/day 1mg/day 20mgs/day
2 50mgs/day 40mcg/day 40mgs/day 1mg/day 20mgs/day
3 50mgs/day 40mcg/day 40mgs/day 1mg/day 20mgs/day
4 50mgs/day 40mcg/day 40mgs/day 1mg/day 20mgs/day
5 50mgs/day 40mcg/day 40mgs/day 1mg/day 20mgs/day
6 50mgs/day 40mcg/day 40mgs/day 1mg/day 20mgs/day
7 REST - OFF
8 50mgs/day 40mcg/day 40mgs/day 1mg/day 20mgs/day
9 50mgs/day 40mcg/day 40mgs/day 1mg/day 20mgs/day
10 50mgs/day 40mcg/day 40mgs/day 1mg/day 20mgs/day
11 50mgs/day 40mcg/day 40mgs/day 1mg/day 20mgs/day
12 50mgs/day 40mcg/day 40mgs/day 1mg/day 20mgs/day
13 50mgs/day 40mcg/day 40mgs/day 1mg/day 20mgs/day
14 50mgs/day 40mcg/day 40mgs/day 1mg/day 20mgs/day
15 50mgs/day 40mcg/day 40mgs/day 1mg/day 20mgs/day
16 50mgs/day 40mcg/day 40mgs/day 1mg/day 20mgs/day


To Be honest, I only come on here if I neeed to know stuff, to learn and for help.. if its not a cycle please Elaborate, WITH SOMETHIN USEFULL, other wise please dont bother!

And I have done some reaserch, but I want e ADVICE!!!

[D7M]

Not Meaning to sound un gratefull, BUT.

I was directed to a site which stated that it WAS a cycle, seeing as U R a obvious Steroid CRITIC, who must know everythin there is to know about steroids, the site suggested the following-



Week Winstrol Clenbuterol Anavar Arimidex Nolvadex
1 50mgs/day 40mcg/day 40mgs/day 1mg/day 20mgs/day
2 50mgs/day 40mcg/day 40mgs/day 1mg/day 20mgs/day
3 50mgs/day 40mcg/day 40mgs/day 1mg/day 20mgs/day
4 50mgs/day 40mcg/day 40mgs/day 1mg/day 20mgs/day
5 50mgs/day 40mcg/day 40mgs/day 1mg/day 20mgs/day
6 50mgs/day 40mcg/day 40mgs/day 1mg/day 20mgs/day
7 REST - OFF
8 50mgs/day 40mcg/day 40mgs/day 1mg/day 20mgs/day
9 50mgs/day 40mcg/day 40mgs/day 1mg/day 20mgs/day
10 50mgs/day 40mcg/day 40mgs/day 1mg/day 20mgs/day
11 50mgs/day 40mcg/day 40mgs/day 1mg/day 20mgs/day
12 50mgs/day 40mcg/day 40mgs/day 1mg/day 20mgs/day
13 50mgs/day 40mcg/day 40mgs/day 1mg/day 20mgs/day
14 50mgs/day 40mcg/day 40mgs/day 1mg/day 20mgs/day
15 50mgs/day 40mcg/day 40mgs/day 1mg/day 20mgs/day
16 50mgs/day 40mcg/day 40mgs/day 1mg/day 20mgs/day


To Be honest, I only come on here if I neeed to know stuff, to learn and for help.. if its not a cycle please Elaborate, WITH SOMETHIN USEFULL, other wise please dont bother!

And I have done some reaserch, but I want e ADVICE!!!

Nice attitude. And then you send me a PM asking for help?

Whatever, some good things just happened in my life, so I'm in a good mood.

I'm far, far from knowing everything about steroids,

but I can tell you that cycle sucks.

You don't want to run winny for 16 weeks, man.

In fact, I probably wouldn't even run var for 16 weeks.

You won't need adex (especially at that dose!) or nolva throughout a cycle like that.

You don't have a pct lined up.

And clen won't be effective if you take it for 16 weeks with only a one week break.

^Soooo, that's why I suggested you research a little more.

On top of that, cutting from say 16% bf to even 12% bf naturally is pretty damn easy if you know what you're doing.

So, again, that's why I suggested you check out the diet forum first.

And, again, since I'm in a good mood today:

What's your current diet and cardio schedule like?

If you're interested in an oral only cycle, I would suggest var for 8 weeks.

So that should help your search.

There are literally thousands of threads on here every damn day about Var.

[theonlygman]

I have no preference to either oral or inject, However, what I have found on my Decca Test 400 cycle is that I am bulking up more than I want. I want to cut more, get more defeniton rather than size.
I found that cycle on another web site-

*********.com/Brad_Pitt_Steroid_Cycles.html

for my Pct I was considering-
Nolvadex, HCG, Vitamin E, Aromasin

Question-
Out of intereast, I have been reading about Anvar, it is only Mildly androgenic (dose of about 50mg a day stops wasting), would you use this in yr PCT to stop losing yr gains?

Most of the other Guys where I am from dont bother with a PCT, which I think is madness, and there is a lot of very contredictory stuff on the web, I mean I found the Cycle I was asking about on another web site which has good revew's, similar to this one! this combined with the fact that every other guy you talk to has conflicting advice to offer.

So am sorry if I dont ask the right stuff but am half way through my first cycle, and loving it!!

Thnaks

[D7M]

Ok. what is your current cycle?

I'm really not pulling your leg: you're "cutting" or "bulking" will depend largely on your diet and cardio.

So the sooner you grasp that, the better off you will be.

No, don't use Var in pct. Even though it's only mildly suppressive, the last thing you want to do during pct is to take anything even slightly suppressive.

You'll get a lot of differing opinions on things like pct, but the tried and true nolva/clomid has always worked well for me, even after long, heavy cycles.

Finally, if you want to look like Brad Pitt in Fight Club, you honestly don't need drugs to do that.

[magic32]

Not Meaning to sound un gratefull, BUT.

I was directed to a site which stated that it WAS a cycle, seeing as U R a obvious Steroid CRITIC, who must know everythin there is to know about steroids, the site suggested the following

To Be honest, I only come on here if I neeed to know stuff, to learn and for help.. if its not a cycle please Elaborate, WITH SOMETHIN USEFULL, other wise please dont bother!
And I have done some reaserch, but I want e ADVICE!!!

Sometimes helping can really hurt!

D7M, maaaan you must be having the best day ever or have slept at a Holliday Inn Express last night, because most would have opted for the "NOTHIN USEFUL" clause and left this apparent 'smart guy' genius (NO FORM OF BODY FAT MEASUREMENT GOES TO THE 16.79 DEGREE, NOT EVEN H2O SUBMERSION) to his own devices!!! Nevertheless, spot on advice as usual, in every single category!

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theonlygman,

Everything he said was accurate, and you might want to list your complete cycle history for better analysis of the problem.

Hope I don't get blasted for trying help too!!!

[D7M]

Sometimes helping can really hurt!

D7M, maaaan you must be having the best day ever or have slept at a Holliday Inn Express last night, because most would have opted for the "NOTHIN USEFUL" clause and left this apparent 'smart guy' genius (NO FORM OF BODY FAT MEASUREMENT GOES TO THE 16.79 DEGREE, NOT EVEN H2O SUBMERSION) to his own devices!!! Nevertheless, spot on advice as usual, in every single category!

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=423772

^^That's why I'm in such a good mood, Magic.

[magic32]

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=423772

^^That's why I'm in such a good mood, Magic.

VERY NICE!
CONGRATS!!!
Can't find that mug bumping/toasting smilie when you need it!

[theonlygman]

Congrats on That D7M!!! You really do know what yr on about!!

I never intended to come accross as a smart guy, I just wanted u to see that I'm trying my best to understand Steroids. (I'm not stupid, just learning).

I really appreciate yr help and advice and will probably be here again asking a question that you think is STUPID, so, sorry in advance!!

And Congrats again!!