Thanks Rana this thread is definitely a good read and I will incorporate your idea of low test high tren stack in my future cycle but I will start the tren at a low dose of 300-375/wk just because this will be my first time and i want to see how my body reacts. A good reason for me to run a low test is because I get bad acne from running 500mg of test/wk so maybe actually I'm HOPING if I ran 100-200mg of test/wk this will help keep the acne off or at least minimize it and at the same time you get the benefits of having some test in your system. This is great bro I will definitely keep this in mind for my future 1st tren/test cycle