log anavar and winny cycle

[Maverick_J8]

Who advised you of this diet? It's awful for your goals and current weight. And at 1800kcals with your goals you certainly shouldn't be indulging in a cheat meal once a week.

Carbs too high (bread is not diet food), and as mentioned already, use of compounds too high and unnecessary.

Drop at least 80g off daily carb intake for starters, ditch the cheat meal for a high carb day once a week, and up the cardio. And that's just for starters.

As you are continuing at the moment, I feel you will end up simply looking a chunkier you which is clearly not what you're aiming for.

My opinion.

[Diamond*K]

i do well with high carbs.. usually when im off cycle i eat more.
i usually eat 1800-1900 cals 40% carbs.. and still lose weight. but right now i just wanna get really ripped and dry.. and eating 1900 cals i still lose fat.. but i gain sum leanmass too.. i just wanna lose as much fat as possible.

[Diamond*K]

trust me.. 1650 cals.. is pretty damn low for me.

[Diamond*K]

Who advised you of this diet? It's awful for your goals and current weight. And at 1800kcals with your goals you certainly shouldn't be indulging in a cheat meal once a week.

Carbs too high (bread is not diet food), and as mentioned already, use of compounds too high and unnecessary.

Drop at least 80g off daily carb intake for starters, ditch the cheat meal for a high carb day once a week, and up the cardio. And that's just for starters.

As you are continuing at the moment, I feel you will end up simply looking a chunkier you which is clearly not what you're aiming for.

My opinion.

read the entire thread.

diet changes every week or so. already dwn to 1650 cals.
gonna start carb cycling next week. have that diet for maybe 2 weeks. drop it down to 1500 cals &carb cycle
im also gonna put up my cardio weekly
and for my last 2 weeks im gonna have a keto style dieting...

cheat days were already cut out...

[Maverick_J8]

but right now i just wanna get really ripped and dry.. and eating 1900 cals i still lose fat.. but i gain sum leanmass too.. i just wanna lose as much fat as possible.

You're contradicting yourself somewhat here.

if you want to 'get really ripped and dry' you should not be worrying about 'some lean mass too'. One or the other.

i just wanna lose as much fat as possible.

If you still lose fat on 1900 calories, drop to 1300 for 5 days straight, then high carb. The var and winny will maintain your strength and energy in the gym.

[Diamond*K]

You're contradicting yourself somewhat here.

if you want to 'get really ripped and dry' you should not be worrying about 'some lean mass too'. One or the other.



If you still lose fat on 1900 calories, drop to 1300 for 5 days straight, then high carb. The var and winny will maintain your strength and energy in the gym.

im not sayin that getting lean mass is bad.. but my cals were too high bcoz of the var i was building muscle and only dropin 1lb a week of fat.. i wanna lose more fat and maintain my lbm

[Maverick_J8]

read the entire thread.

diet changes every week or so. already dwn to 1650 cals.
gonna start carb cycling next week. have that diet for maybe 2 weeks. drop it down to 1500 cals & carb cycle
im also gonna put up my cardio weekly
and for my last 2 weeks im gonna have a keto style dieting...

cheat days were already cut out...

I've already briefed over it and understand it's a trial for you at the moment.

But from looking at your pics and body type you need to cut the calories even more if you want to achieve your aims.

[Maverick_J8]

i wanna lose more fat and maintain my lbm

Drop the calories. Drop the bread (and/or anything processed).

Keep up the hard work.

[Diamond*K]

i kno wat ur saying... and trust me i am.. but slowly... i rather put up my cardio then 2 put down my cals....
so i was thinking.. carb cycle at 1650 for 2 weeks. put up my cardio in that time. lower my carbs down to 1500 and carb cycle, 2nd week of that put up my cardio sum more.
then my last 2 weeks.. put up my cardio again lol keep my high carb( sunday& thursday) days and the rest make them keto days. and my last week just cut it down to 1400 cals keto all week.
sumthing like that.. it might change depending on how things go..

[Diamond*K]

Drop the calories. Drop the bread (and/or anything processed).

Keep up the hard work.

bread is not processed. its all organic ... has to stay in the freezer or it goes bad..sum of the pros eat that kinda bread.. its where i got the idea to put it in my diet.

and thanx i'll keep ya posted

[Maverick_J8]

i kno wat ur saying... and trust me i am.. but slowly... i rather put up my cardio then 2 put down my cals....
so i was thinking.. carb cycle at 1650 for 2 weeks. put up my cardio in that time. lower my carbs down to 1500 and carb cycle, 2nd week of that put up my cardio sum more.
then my last 2 weeks.. put up my cardio again lol keep my high carb( sunday& thursday) days and the rest make them keto days. and my last week just cut it down to 1400 cals keto all week.
sumthing like that.. it might change depending on how things go..

Out of interest.
What's the reason you would rather put up your cardio than put down your calories?

[Diamond*K]

ok.. i got an important question.. and this is for any1 tthat can answer.

if i usually eat 1900 cals and all that.. after im done cycling and im done with this diet. how do i eat after this?

[Diamond*K]

i just rather wrk off wat im eating so by body doesnt go crazy when i start eatin more normal...

[Maverick_J8]

i just rather wrk off wat im eating so by body doesnt go crazy when i start eatin more normal...

That won't happen when you know how to eat from day to day, in fact the leaner you get the easier it is to maintain and the more flexibility you will have to enjoy certain foods that you thought you'd have to stay away from - I can answer the question you've asked but I have to go so will leave it to one of the other guys to contribute.

But remember it, it's now a lifestyle not just a cycle or diet. That's the key factor to dwell on.

[Diamond*K]

That won't happen when you know how to eat from day to day, in fact the leaner you get the easier it is to maintain and the more flexibility you will have to enjoy certain foods that you thought you'd have to stay away from - I can answer the question you've asked but I have to go so will leave it to one of the other guys to contribute.

But remember it, it's now a lifestyle not just a cycle or diet. That's the key factor to dwell on.

oh yea i kno.. but i just dont wanna measure my food all the time. and i wanna be able 2 cheat a lil here and there..

[Diamond*K]

ok.. i did sum research on the ezekiel bread.
its a mix of like 7 grains. plus jay cutler uses it pre comp.
im gonna keep it in my diet... we'll see if i can still reach my goals.

i'd like 2 c how much i can handle... like obviously i could lose tons of weight if i drop my cals dwn to under 1500 and cut out all my carbs..... but i'd like to play and see what wrks best for me.

[taiboxa]

even though cardio is essential for health/stamina/well-being.. in all honesty its nothing compared to a well composed diet w/ proper macros n' meal timings, though i love doing lots of cardio because it helps my stamina so i can suck less wind during resistance training sessions

[Diamond*K]

ok i got my new diets starting next week figured out

high carb day:

-- 1 hr cardio---
9:00 meal 1 -360 cals/ 11 f/ 22 p/ 36 carbs

2/3 cup oats - 150cals/ 2g fat/ 2 g protein/ 33 carbs
1tbsp natty peanut-butter- 100 cals/ 8g fats/ 5g pro/ 3 carbs
2 egg whites 30 cals/ 0fat/ 7g pro/ 0carb



11:30 - meal 2 - 248 cal/ 8.5 f/ 26p/ 15

3 oz chicken- 100 cals/ 2 g fat/ 20 g pro/ 0 carbs
1slice ezekiel bread- 80 cals/.5fat/ 4g pro/ 14carb
almonds 10g - 68 cals/ 6g fat/ 2 pro/1 g carb




1:30 meal 3- 294cals/ 10 g fat/ 28g pro/ 25g carbs

1 scoop whey- 119 cal/ 2g fat/ 23g pro/ 2g carbs
3oz banana 75 cals/ 0fat/ 0pro/ 20 carbs
1tbsp natty peanut-butter- 100 cals/ 8g fats/ 5g pro/ 3 carbs



4:00 meal 6- 248 cal/ 8.5 f/ 26p/ 15

3 oz chicken- 100 cals/ 2 g fat/ 20 g pro/ 0 carbs
1slice ezekiel bread- 80 cals/.5fat/ 4g pro/ 14carb
almonds 10g - 68 cals/ 6g fat/ 2 pro/1 g carb




4:30 --- train 1hr , 1hr cardio---



7:00 meal 5 - 300cals/ 2.75 g fat/ 38 g pro/ 37carbs

1 slice ezekiel bread- 80 cals/.5fat/ 4g pro/ 14carb
2/3 cup quinoa- 160 cals/ 2.5 fat/ 6 g pro/ 30 carbs
2oz tuna- 60 cals/ 0fat/ 15g pro/ 0carbs



9:30 meal 7- 115cal/ 12.5p/ 4 fat/ 5carb

1/2 scoop banana Protein 65 cals/ 10pro/ 1.5 f/ 3.5 carb
1tsp natty peanut-butter- 50 cals/ 4g fats/ 2.5g pro/ 1.5 carbs




1,565cals
146.5 pro
46.5 f
146 carbs

[Diamond*K]

med carb day(around 100g/day)

-- 1 hr cardio---
9:00 meal 1 -310 cals/ 9.5 f/ 20.5 p/ 25 carbs

1/2 cup oats - 150cals/ 2g fat/ 2 g protein/ 22 carbs
1tbsp natty peanut-butter- 100 cals/ 8g fats/ 5g pro/ 3 carbs
2 egg whites 30 cals/ 0fat/ 7g pro/ 0carb


11:30 - meal 2 - 298 cal/ 9.5 f/ 36p/ 15

4.5 oz chicken- 150 cals/ 3 g fat/ 30 g pro/ 0 carbs
1slice ezekiel bread- 80 cals/.5fat/ 4g pro/ 14carb
almonds 10g - 68 cals/ 6g fat/ 2 pro/1 g carb




1:30 meal 3- 280 cals/ 9.5f/ 34p/ 14 carbs
1 can tuna- 120 cals/0fat/30gp/0carb
2tsp flax oil- 80cals/ 9g fat
1slice ezekiel bread- 80 cals/.5fat/ 4g pro/ 14carb



4:00 meal 6- 298 cal/ 9.5 f/ 36p/ 15

4.5 oz chicken- 150 cals/ 3 g fat/ 30 g pro/ 0 carbs
1slice ezekiel bread- 80 cals/.5fat/ 4g pro/ 14carb
almonds 10g - 68 cals/ 6g fat/ 2 pro/1 g carb




4:30 --- train 1hr , 1hr cardio---



7:00 meal 5 - 265cals/ 11 g fat/ 19 g pro/ 20carbs


1/2 cup quinoa- 105 cals/ 2 fat/ 4 g pro/ 20 carbs
4oz tuna- 120 cals/ 0fat/ 15g pro/ 0carbs
1tsp flax oil- 40cals/ 4.5g fat



9:30 meal 7- 100cal/ 22.5p/ 4.5fat/ 0carb

1/2 can tuna- 60 cals/0fat/15gp/0carb
1tsp flax oil- 40cals/ 4.5g fat




1,551cals
160.5 pro
49 f
89 carbs (close enough)

[Diamond*K]

low carb day:

-- 1 hr cardio---
9:00 meal 1 -310 cals/ 9.5 f/ 20.5 p/ 25 carbs

1/2 cup oats - 150cals/ 2g fat/ 2 g protein/ 22 carbs
1tbsp natty peanut-butter- 100 cals/ 8g fats/ 5g pro/ 3 carbs
2 egg whites 30 cals/ 0fat/ 7g pro/ 0carb


11:30 - meal 2 - 308 cal/ 14.5 f/ 32p/ 1

6 oz chicken- 200 cals/ 4g fat/ 40 g pro/ 0 carbs
almonds 10g - 68 cals/ 6g fat/ 2 pro/1 g carb
1 tsp flax oil- 40 cal/ 4.5g fat


1:30 meal 3 - 200 cals / 9 g fat/ 30 p / 0 carb
1 can tuna- 120 cals/ 0 fat/ 30 g p/ 0 carb
2 tsp flax oil- 80 cal/ 9g fat



4:00 meal 6- 308 cal/ 14.5 f/ 42p/ 1 carb

6 oz chicken- 200 cals/ 4 g fat/ 40 g pro/ 0 carbs
almonds 10g - 68 cals/ 6g fat/ 2 pro/1 g carb
1 tsp flax oil- 40 cal/ 4.5g fat



4:30 --- train 1hr , 1hr cardio---



7:00 meal 5 - 305cals/ 2 g fat/ 34 g pro/ 20carbs


1/2 cup quinoa- 105 cals/ 2 fat/ 4 g pro/ 20 carbs
4oz tuna- 120 cals/ 0fat/ 30g pro/ 0carbs
2 tsp flax oil- 80 cal/ 9g fat


9:30 meal 7- 140 cals / 9 g fat/ 30 p / 0 carb
1/2 can tuna- 60 cals/ 0 fat/ 15 g p/ 0 carb
2 tsp flax oil- 80 cal/ 9g fat


1569 cals
173.5 g pro
58.5g fat
47 g carbs

[Diamond*K]

omg.. im already feeling hungry looking at this

[Morgoth]

Hows your cycle going right now Krys? Are the Var and Winny having an effect?

[Diamond*K]

Hows your cycle going right now Krys? Are the Var and Winny having an effect?

im not on winny yet...

the var at 20mg feels pretty good tho.. i split it 10mg am, 10mg pm.

so not many sides.

[Diamond*K]

ok i started my carb cycling today

i took sum pix.. next sat i will take more

[Diamond*K]

more pix

[Diamond*K]

ok im a lil obsessed about how my bak looks.. i really want my bak to look like jamie eason's

[Morgoth]

Keep it up Krys! However, I personally do think you should keep a more balanced diet instead of spiking your carbs all over the spectrm like you are doing.

Anyhow, tell me something: What kind of sides do you normally experiance on Anavar? Any aggression? Any aggression on winny?

[Diamond*K]

Keep it up Krys! However, I personally do think you should keep a more balanced diet instead of spiking your carbs all over the spectrm like you are doing.

Anyhow, tell me something: What kind of sides do you normally experiance on Anavar? Any aggression? Any aggression on winny?

yea a lil. LOL i find im a lil short tempered. i kinda start 2 get that attitude like i dont care about anything. and my sex drive is a lil messed up....
like usually im in the "mood".. and i am now i am ALL the time.. but its different 2. like now when i'm in the mood... i just wanna finish and call it a night lol. and my preference on what i like is different too. usually i dont care for attention 2 my clit... where as now its sooooooo sensitive , its all i really want. (seriously tho.. i gotta be careful wiping myself coz my knees get weak LOL )

i am starting to get sum acne on my back. winny usually does it 2 me pretty bad. i find the only side affect i really get from winny is acne... i get a lil from the var.. but winny does me bad.

i think the obsession of how my cycle is goin , how much weight im losing has a lot 2 do with my attitude too... i become very focused on me and i dont really care about any1 else.

so im gettin sum sides.. but nothing too serious... no voice change ( im more wrried about the winny doin that)

[Diamond*K]

heres a pic from 3 weeks ago and now

[Maverick_J8]

i think the obsession of how my cycle is goin , how much weight im losing has a lot 2 do with my attitude too... i become very focused on me and i dont really care about any1 else.

That's me all over anyway.

[Diamond*K]

That's me all over anyway.

i thinks it must be a BB thing.... i think most ppl here couls say there obsessed about their bodies

[Diamond*K]

just sum diff pix

[oldschoolfitness]

over all you look great! but like all of us you want improvement sounds like you got a legit plan and everything is set to go. i really don't know a whole lot about cutting and dieting i just wanted to wish you good luck and hope you reach those goals. by the way nothing wrong with the booty got to have some shape back there ( i keep telling my wife the same thing) from the front very impressive and results should be great. better get off this thread before she sees those picks lol.

[Morgoth]

Krys, is there any reason you didn't add Clen to this cycle instead of either Winny or Anavar?

[Hazard]

Great job so far! I can see your arms are more defined.....

Seems like you have a pretty good grasp for what you need to do...... you're focused..... just keep at it. This is a great learning experience..... you're going to find out what you're made of..... you'll find out what your body responds to and what it doesn't respond to..... and most of all.... you'll find out what it takes and what you need to do for a competition.

keep up the good work!

~Haz~

[Diamond*K]

Krys, is there any reason you didn't add Clen to this cycle instead of either Winny or Anavar?

i did.. i do it 4 days on 2 days off. every time i start back at day 1 i up my doses

[Diamond*K]

trying tp push out my lats...

[DaBullet]

Looking real good DK!! Are you working out the wheels too??? havent seen any pics of them thats the only reason im asking...but good results so far.

[Diamond*K]

Looking real good DK!! Are you working out the wheels too??? havent seen any pics of them thats the only reason im asking...but good results so far.

i am.. im gonna start wrking hard on them.. i still dont like them enough to post pics

[Diamond*K]

my numbers where done 2day....

down to 17.2 %
143 lbs
muscle went up to 118. something
and my bf went dwn to 24. something.. sry 4got 2 write it down.

i cant believe it..... but i do find my abs are cumin out a lot more.. tries loook great and my back is starting 2 form real nice.

my wheels are the only thing im struggling with.... look look better each week.. but its not good enough.... not 4 me any ways....