I am on my first Test E cycle and will never do it again. On week 6 and It has barley kicked in. Some strenth, no real size. I have done sust and only pinned twice a week and my size went dramatically in the first 2 weeks. Never again am I waiting 5 or 6 weeks to see anything. And have to do a 12-15 week cycle. Stust or prop next time.