Getting frustrated with bloat/fat gain

[AlphaMaleDawg]

Here is the cycle I am running. I'm halfway through week four.

1-14 Test E 625mg
1-12 Deca 400mg
1-4 dbol 40mg

I have NOT been using an AI, though I do have arimidex on hand. I am taking caber.

I am just getting discouraged with the bloating and probable fat gain. I went from 183 to 198 first thing in the morning (I am 5'9). The strength us awesome and I definitely look much bigger, but I lost my abs and my plan to still be ripped for the summer looks to be a pipe dream. The fact that I am in Miami now for a few days makes me kind of sad because I miss having people stare at my abs.

I think I'm going to start cutting when i get home Saturday. This will also coincide with dbol being over. I am going to do this carefully though. Right now I am eating a little over 3600 calories per day. I will probably drop that to 3000, keeping my protein just as high but lowering carbs and fats a bit. I have anavar on hand so I think I'm going to start that too at 60mg. Yes I know too much orals and bad for the liver but it's the price I am willing to pay to get my ripped look back. I will add cardio only twice per week, which will be off days from lifting.

I am aware I will not get the most from this cycle muscle wise when it's all said and done, but if it makes me an ab machine, then so be it.

I know I should have planned the cycle more carefully, but with summer almost here, I can't afford to look sloppy

thoughts?

[Phate]

i think you should stop the dbol and watch the bloat start disappearing lol, if this isn't your first cycle you could throw some winny or masteron in to help pull some water out and harden your appearance

[gymnerd]

I would just run the AI and keep the calories where they are,. Dex will not affect gains much if at all, dropping calories will definitely effect gains.

[AlphaMaleDawg]

i think you should stop the dbol and watch the bloat start disappearing lol, if this isn't your first cycle you could throw some winny or masteron in to help pull some water out and harden your appearance

I don't know I am kind if worried it is more than just bloat. There is some unwanted fat there too that I can't afford to have. Do you really think coming off the dbol will really make me lose a lot if water and weight?

I would just run the AI and keep the calories where they are,. Dex will not affect gains much if at all, dropping calories will definitely effect gains.

I know it might effect gains, but I am kind if willing to let that happen. Looking ripped for summer is my number 1 priority right now

[Phate]

yeah i do, if you are running dbol without an AI i guarantee you are adding water weight, how much idk but stopping the dbol and taking .5mg of arimidex for a couple days will tell you

[NMacFar]

Dropping the dbol will, in return, drop a ton of weight

[hankdiesel]

Dropping the dbol will, in return, drop a ton of weight

It's not going to take care of that extra fat though. If this is a bulker than who cares about a little extra fat? If you want to get rid of it though you know what to do. Do more cardio and cut some calories.

[AlphaMaleDawg]

So if i stopped the dbol in 2 days, which I was going to do anyway because it's been 4 weeks, and also started arimidex at .25 or .5 eod, how long would it take for the bloat to go away? I suppose I could give it another week before fully commiting to cutting throughout the remainder of the cycle

[New2Anabolic]

1 week you would see noticeable change.
2 weeks without Dbol and using Adex would remove the majority of the bloat you have.

[AlphaMaleDawg]

1 week you would see noticeable change.
2 weeks without Dbol and using Adex would remove the majority of the bloat you have.

Even with test e and deca starting to kick in at that time? Should I take .25 or .5? It would be nice if I could get away with .25 so gains wouldn't be affected. I could make an educated decision whether to cut or not at that point.

[bigpapabuff]

I would go with liquid exemestane, better than liquidex imo.