Confused

[rueboy]

Hey guys, im new to this site and am hoping for some advice.

Im 30yrs old have been training hard and properly for about a year, im 6ft and weigh 90kg -200lbs and have a decent natural build.

Anyway im set to start my first cycle, this is what i have and inted to do:

Test prop 100mg EOD for 8 weeks
Anavar 50mg ED for 8 weeks

My main focus is putting on lean mass and lowering my body fat levels rather than just purely bulking.

Now my main question regards Clomid and Nolvadex, which i have both of, Im confused with all the info on the web and want to know how to take (or which one to take) during the cycle and for PCT?

Would appreciate any help..

[rueboy]

This is where i get confused, as what ive been reading from "experts" tell me that as a beginer i should be taking 400-500mg per week of test prop, and 50mg of anavar each day is plenty, and pct is a must?

Like i said im not trying to go crazy on bulk but would like some lean muscle gain and fat loss, my diet is good, and i believe my training is good so im hoping for some respectable results .

"Experts" say that amount of test prop alone will shut down my natural test well and truely so why no PCT?

[D7M]

Hey guys, im new to this site and am hoping for some advice.

Im 30yrs old have been training hard and properly for about a year, im 6ft and weigh 90kg -200lbs and have a decent natural build.

Anyway im set to start my first cycle, this is what i have and inted to do:

Test prop 100mg EOD for 8 weeks
Anavar 50mg ED for 8 weeks

My main focus is putting on lean mass and lowering my body fat levels rather than just purely bulking.

Now my main question regards Clomid and Nolvadex, which i have both of, Im confused with all the info on the web and want to know how to take (or which one to take) during the cycle and for PCT?

Would appreciate any help..

A simple and effective pct would be

clomid 100/50/50/50
Nolva 40/20/20/20

^That being the dose per day, every week. So 100mg of clomid everyday for the first week, etc, etc.

To be quite honest with you, you're probably not going to gain much muscle at all from that cycle. Secondly, since you're not using very much Test and Anavar to begin with, you're not going to need the anti-estrogen and pct either.

The first cycle I EVER did in my life was this:

Test Enanthate- 1,000mg a week
Anavar- 80mg a day
Arimidex- 1 tablet a day

I gained 14 pounds in 4 weeks. Also, just so you know, I had already been a drug free bodybuilder for 14 years. My diet was perfect and my training was perfect.

So, unless you have as much experience as I do, and your diet and training are perfect too (even if everything is perfect), you're still not going to gain much muscle from your cycle you mentioned. It's just not enough dosage.

Seriously?

This is the third time I've seen you telling people new to AAS to use a gram or two a week.

That's just reckless advice, and frankly an unnecessary dose.

300-600mg/wk for a first cycle is more than sufficient, and he will see gains off that.

This is where i get confused, as what ive been reading from "experts" tell me that as a beginer i should be taking 400-500mg per week of test prop, and 50mg of anavar each day is plenty, and pct is a must?

Like i said im not trying to go crazy on bulk but would like some lean muscle gain and fat loss, my diet is good, and i believe my training is good so im hoping for some respectable results .

"Experts" say that amount of test prop alone will shut down my natural test well and truely so why no PCT?

^Yes, pct is a must.

You're right the test will shut you down...and that's the very reason you do a PCT after your cycle: to recover your natural test production.

Keep reading and asking questions before jumping into anything, so you're very clear on what you are doing, and the compounds you're using.

[rueboy]

Cheers D7M, would you recomend Clomid or Nolvadex during the cycle? Im scared of gyno even at that low dosage

[BJJ]

Hey guys, im new to this site and am hoping for some advice.

Im 30yrs old have been training hard and properly for about a year, im 6ft and weigh 90kg -200lbs and have a decent natural build.

Anyway im set to start my first cycle, this is what i have and inted to do:

Test prop 100mg EOD for 8 weeks
Anavar 50mg ED for 8 weeks

My main focus is putting on lean mass and lowering my body fat levels rather than just purely bulking.

Now my main question regards Clomid and Nolvadex, which i have both of, Im confused with all the info on the web and want to know how to take (or which one to take) during the cycle and for PCT?

Would appreciate any help..

Listen D7M, you will be fine.

[D7M]

Cheers D7M, would you recomend Clomid or Nolvadex during the cycle? Im scared of gyno even at that low dosage

No on the clomid on cycle.

I'd just have an AI on hand if you feel any gyno coming up.

[HeavyHitter]

cycle sounds great!! like i tell everyone, you are going to be completley satisfied.

Bchris- that advice is horrible! lol

[songdog]

Why no pct.Test shuts you down.Plz explain!!!