STEROIDS and BodyBuilders/Personal trainers

[Dr Pepper]

I go to a pretty big gym in Australia (no names). There's a a lot of body builders that currently compete and personal trainers that ONLY train body builders to compete, that are at my gym... Some of these people have years and years and YEARS! of experience in training for comps and the use of steroids. Iv only started to learn about the use of steroids and how they work since the few months ago when i joined this site. Now im not an expert by any stretch of the imagination and am just beginning to understand how steroids work. BUT it amazes me the lack of knowledge these PT's and Body builders have about the use of steroids let alone if you ask about PCT, most of them don't even know what PCT is and have been using steroids for years. The worst part is there leading so many people astray... Does anyone find that there's a lot of this out there??

It really shows how vital/crucial the information on this site is and the knowledge of the vets on this site is second to none...

[Pr3ss]

Im from Aus too, and I did ask a few trainers in my gym that are on roids about PCT, they did not have a clue what I was on about lol

[Kibble]

That's because the true professional bodybuilders are probally on TRT. That is why they do not exercise pct

[GUP]

sorry whats TRT ? I know HRT

[Aussiebb]

Proabably because they are on roids non stop and never have a break.So they dont need to do pct thats why they know jack shit about it

[Dr Pepper]

I'm not just talking about PCT... I'm talking bout steriods, yes maib there on it all the time and don't need pct but they still dont have much knowledge on the correct use of steroids... Theres a lot of pt's out there putting people on cycles that they shouldn't b, because of massive lack of knowledge!

[Kibble]

Well half of the 19 year old bodybuilders on this website were personal trainers at some point in time..... , so ask them

[GUP]

90% of the wacked out threads about deca only, or week 1-10 anapolin 100mg ed , all that advice generally comes from a PT in a gym somewhere thats peddling his wares.

same problem over here , no one has any idea how to structure a decent cycle for a beginner never mind a more complex cycle

[NMacFar]

Well half of the 19 year old bodybuilders on this website were personal trainers at some point in time..... , so ask them

hahahahaha

[Dr Pepper]

Well half of the 19 year old bodybuilders on this website were personal trainers at some point in time..... , so ask them

Ask them what???

[Kibble]

Ask them why they don't teach their clients about pct

[Dr Pepper]

I already know that, I wasn't asking that... They dnt know, that's my point!

[alexISthrowed]

I go to a pretty big gym in Australia (no names). There's a a lot of body builders that currently compete and personal trainers that ONLY train body builders to compete, that are at my gym... Some of these people have years and years and YEARS! of experience in training for comps and the use of steroids. Iv only started to learn about the use of steroids and how they work since the few months ago when i joined this site. Now im not an expert by any stretch of the imagination and am just beginning to understand how steroids work. BUT it amazes me the lack of knowledge these PT's and Body builders have about the use of steroids let alone if you ask about PCT, most of them don't even know what PCT is and have been using steroids for years. The worst part is there leading so many people astray... Does anyone find that there's a lot of this out there??

It really shows how vital/crucial the information on this site is and the knowledge of the vets on this site is second to none...

There are plenty of PT's and bodybuilders at my gym that dont know what there talking about. Just because someone is a PT doesnt really mean anything. There was a guy at my gym that had to ask my dad why he was lactating.

[Dr Pepper]

I'm not talking about ur run of the mill pt... I'm talking bout pt's that personal train BB ONLY... That hav trained bb's for comps for years and still they dnt hav a clue...

[GUP]

depends, old school didnt do pct or have much knowledge of pct at all, correct me if i am wrong but how long has pct actually been a staple of a cycle 10 years 15 years ? i am not sure of the age of the pt in your area training the comp guys maybe just old school ?

and have to agree how many comp guys actually come off at all other than just a blast cruise during the year ?

[Dr Pepper]

There's alot of people that compete and come off it, just cauz u compete doesn't mean ur gearing all the time...

I'm not just talking bout one pt or bb, I'm talking about a few both young and old...

[Hard.On]

Theres people everywhere that dont know what they are talking about when it comes to AAS, personal trainers, doctors, athletes, gym rats etc.

I would tell you to go educate them, but then they would probly somehow forget what little knowledge they had.

Can your next thread be,

"ICE and Eskimos/ice fisherman"

[Hard.On]

or better yet

"ICE and Meth addicts/Homeless"

then you can give your opinion on how they use but dont really have enough knowledge

[Dr Pepper]

Ahhh bak again I see twotimer. Where hav u been, haven't seen u lateli... Still the same though, nothing educated or usefull to say...

[AlphaGenetics]

Dr. pepper did you abandon your other account? Too many flames huh?

[Hard.On]

He said he was going to abandon this one and leave to a new forum.....
I guess not yet

[Dr Pepper]

What other account?

[PK-V]

Well half of the 19 year old bodybuilders on this website were personal trainers at some point in time..... , so ask them

that fits my profile lol

I do know about pct

[stevey_6t9]

let me guess OP, you go to one of those fag ass fitness first bitch gyms with all the personal trainers that deal on the side to make extra cash?

[SMcB]

It seems like only the internet world is familiar with PCT. I've actually talked to a few pharmacists and asked them about using nolva and/or clomid after a steroid cycle and although they never heard of using those drugs for that reason (they never even heard that nolva can increase natural testosterone production!), they all thought that 'theoretically' it might work. So PCT doesn't seem to be an exact science. Everyone on the internet forums just seems to swear by using fertility and breast cancer drugs for PCT and pop them like candy. Who even knows what kind of long term effects these drugs will have on men when they were initially developed for women? I'm starting to think if this whole 'PCT' thing is really legitimate. I mean, how come so many steroid users nowadays seem to get gyno?? Could it be more because of SERM/AI usage more than the steroids itself? I guess the only way to truly find out how effective PCT really is would be to run two separate cycles and use PCT after one cycle and just taper down and not use PCT for the other cycle and see how much of a difference it makes.