This is how Steriods get a bad rep. People doing them and not doing PCT and then they get bad sides. Then they tell their friends....those friends tell others etc etc. Also back in the day (like when Arnold was training) they didn't have PCT (correct me if I am wrong)....so I am sure alot of the horror stories you hear from "old timers" would have been avoided if they had access to the PCT we all have available to us today.