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    Quote Originally Posted by 007 View Post
    I shall be leaving it another month or two.

    Because ive had a period of time out of the game i believe its very important to focus on diet and training until i get close to my natural potential which weight wise would be around 210lbs.. Im sitting at about 203lbs now and my strength is coming back good and strong...

    I will be running the hgh along side tri tren and test although im going to start the hgh 2 months before the aas.. Im convinced that i can get to 260/270lbs in 12 months..

    Im going to run the hgh as follows:
    1-4 weeks @2ius 5/2.
    4-8 @ 4ius 5/2.
    8-12 @ 6ius 5/2.
    12-? @ 8ius 5/2..

    Im going to get more hgh and would hope to stay on for at least 12 months...

    I will post pictures on my profile page as im going along...

    What are your thoughts???

    I think you have got it all worked out and have done your job right!

    HGH is amazing when used right and with AAS the synergy is phenomenal. I will be really interested to see how you progress over the next 12 months+. In my experience the only thing/things that have held me back BB'ing are personal problems which take your eye off the ball.....if you can stay hasstle free and focussed then the sky is the limit for you!

    How many cycles do you plan to run during the 12 months?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xtralarg View Post
    I think you have got it all worked out and have done your job right!

    HGH is amazing when used right and with AAS the synergy is phenomenal. I will be really interested to see how you progress over the next 12 months+. In my experience the only thing/things that have held me back BB'ing are personal problems which take your eye off the ball.....if you can stay hasstle free and focussed then the sky is the limit for you!

    How many cycles do you plan to run during the 12 months?

    Im undecided yet on how many cycles im going to run however im sure im going to cruise from cycle to cycle. Im almost 40 and have no plans at this point of my to have kids....

    The biggest factor in all of this is the cost, the food im consuming now is costing an arm and a leg. I can understand why the pro's need sponsors..
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    Quote Originally Posted by 007 View Post
    Im undecided yet on how many cycles im going to run however im sure im going to cruise from cycle to cycle. Im almost 40 and have no plans at this point of my to have kids....

    The biggest factor in all of this is the cost, the food im consuming now is costing an arm and a leg. I can understand why the pro's need sponsors..
    If you're cruising then thats ideal!

    Have you done any short heavy cycles?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xtralarg View Post
    If you're cruising then thats ideal!

    Have you done any short heavy cycles?
    Ive never done short burst cycles, ie 4/5/6 weeks..

    I usually run cycles for 12/14 weeks...

    I you thinking that throwing a number of short burst cycles in there would be of some benefit???
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    Quote Originally Posted by 007 View Post
    Ive never done short burst cycles, ie 4/5/6 weeks..

    I usually run cycles for 12/14 weeks...

    I you thinking that throwing a number of short burst cycles in there would be of some benefit???
    Well its certainly an option you should think about depending on how you react to AAS. One of my most productive cycles was a very heavy (5g pw) 4 week one with 8iu EOD HGH shots - I gained more than 20lbs in the 4 weeks and retained the vast majority of it. I always see quick results though no matter what compunds I run, after 6 weeks its always PCT time for me.

    Cruising at 250mg pw rather than 125mg will have its benifits but the downside is that when you do cycle you have to take this in consideration and up the amount your on cycle, which in turn can lead to more sides in many areas, however im sure you are aware of this and are happy with your choice.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 007 View Post
    Ive never done short burst cycles, ie 4/5/6 weeks..

    I usually run cycles for 12/14 weeks...

    I you thinking that throwing a number of short burst cycles in there would be of some benefit???
    i did a short blast with prop and tren a recently, def the best results ive had so far, although i made the mistake of dropping straight down to my trt dose after and crashed alittle

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    Quote Originally Posted by dec11 View Post
    i did a short blast with prop and tren a recently, def the best results ive had so far, although i made the mistake of dropping straight down to my trt dose after and crashed alittle
    Can you share whith us the dosage of HGH and the cycle details pls?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BignBig View Post
    Can you share whith us the dosage of HGH and the cycle details pls?
    wasnt on hgh

    250mg test e (trt)
    350mg test prop
    350mg tren a

    9wks on prop, tren intro'd at wk 2.5

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xtralarg View Post
    If you're cruising then thats ideal!

    Have you done any short heavy cycles?
    I'm currently cruising on prop and 10iu riptropin ed - 5iu at bedtime and 5iu on waking before am cardio.

    I have been on the 10iu GH ed now for nearly 6 months and cycled during that time with great results.

    I am planning a 4 week blast in a few weeks, something like this:

    140mg prop ed
    100mg tren ace ed
    200mg winstrol ed (oral)
    20/30iu lantus insulin with breakfast
    2mg PEG MGF PWO mon,wed,fri split bilaterally in bodyparts worked

    I will at least continue with 10iu GH ed but am contemplating adding in another 10iu PWO mon,wed & fri.

    Thoughts?

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    Quote Originally Posted by NotSmall View Post
    I'm currently cruising on prop and 10iu riptropin ed - 5iu at bedtime and 5iu on waking before am cardio.

    I have been on the 10iu GH ed now for nearly 6 months and cycled during that time with great results.

    I am planning a 4 week blast in a few weeks, something like this:

    140mg prop ed
    100mg tren ace ed
    200mg winstrol ed (oral)
    20/30iu lantus insulin with breakfast
    2mg PEG MGF PWO mon,wed,fri split bilaterally in bodyparts worked

    I will at least continue with 10iu GH ed but am contemplating adding in another 10iu PWO mon,wed & fri.

    Thoughts?
    Hey thanks for the input its gresatly appreciated!

    I really like the aas cycle, I can see some rock hard gains coming from it.

    A question though regarding your HGH admistation time, why have you chosen to have 5iu's at bedtime?

    Also adding the extra 10iu's PWO mon,wed and fri...are those your only training days?

    Ive read a lot about latnus insulin, how do you find it compared to a fast acting insulin?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xtralarg View Post
    Hey thanks for the input its gresatly appreciated!

    I really like the aas cycle, I can see some rock hard gains coming from it.

    A question though regarding your HGH admistation time, why have you chosen to have 5iu's at bedtime?

    Also adding the extra 10iu's PWO mon,wed and fri...are those your only training days?

    Ive read a lot about latnus insulin, how do you find it compared to a fast acting insulin?
    No Problem bud - like the idea of the thread!

    Yeah I'm really looking forward to running it - I get great gains from tren but it does turn me into a bit of a cunt but I reckon I can fight it for 4 weeks ha!

    The 5iu at bedtime is simply following the logic that if thats when our bodies release it then thats probably the time it works best, I like to think its helping me to grow in my sleep etc

    Yeah I only train mon, wed & fri - big believer in "less is more" - hardest lesson to learn in BBing IMO!

    I don't necessarily need to add the extra GH PWO but I feel that as I've been on 10iu ed for nearly 6 months I would like to up it for the 4 week blast just to absolutely super-saturate every muscle building mechanism - if that makes sense?

    I haven't run the lantus yet but Maxtiter argues the case for it as opposed to fast acting slin very convincingly and whilst the science is a bit beyond me it is clear he knows what he is talking about - a few of the boys over there have tried it, some loved it, some didn't so I figure I'd better give it a go!

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    Quote Originally Posted by NotSmall View Post
    No Problem bud - like the idea of the thread!

    Yeah I'm really looking forward to running it - I get great gains from tren but it does turn me into a bit of a cunt but I reckon I can fight it for 4 weeks ha!

    The 5iu at bedtime is simply following the logic that if thats when our bodies release it then thats probably the time it works best, I like to think its helping me to grow in my sleep etc

    Yeah I only train mon, wed & fri - big believer in "less is more" - hardest lesson to learn in BBing IMO!

    I don't necessarily need to add the extra GH PWO but I feel that as I've been on 10iu ed for nearly 6 months I would like to up it for the 4 week blast just to absolutely super-saturate every muscle building mechanism - if that makes sense?

    I haven't run the lantus yet but Maxtiter argues the case for it as opposed to fast acting slin very convincingly and whilst the science is a bit beyond me it is clear he knows what he is talking about - a few of the boys over there have tried it, some loved it, some didn't so I figure I'd better give it a go!
    Well I figured we need a serious HGH thread as so many good guys use it but not much is said about it...until now I hope!

    I agree that having the 5iu's at bedtime will help you sleep but I am concerned that it will supress your own natural production as its biggest pulse out of the 6-9 we have each day is produced shorty afetr we fall asleep at night. Have you got conflicting info mate?

    You will have to let us know how the insulin works for you.
    -XL

    jing jai

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    Quote Originally Posted by NotSmall View Post
    I'm currently cruising on prop and 10iu riptropin ed - 5iu at bedtime and 5iu on waking before am cardio.

    I have been on the 10iu GH ed now for nearly 6 months and cycled during that time with great results.

    I am planning a 4 week blast in a few weeks, something like this:

    140mg prop ed
    100mg tren ace ed
    200mg winstrol ed (oral)
    20/30iu lantus insulin with breakfast
    2mg PEG MGF PWO mon,wed,fri split bilaterally in bodyparts worked

    I will at least continue with 10iu GH ed but am contemplating adding in another 10iu PWO mon,wed & fri.

    Thoughts?
    I'm interested to know how you gonna split the 2mg of MGF?
    Its in my "to do" list. You the first user I found using above 100mcg?

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    Hey guys !!

    I noticed I stopped getting the "numb and tingly" feeling after my shots , anything wrong here ?

    And I'm sure the bloat is starting to fade away a little

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    Quote Originally Posted by babyface770 View Post
    Hey guys !!

    I noticed I stopped getting the "numb and tingly" feeling after my shots , anything wrong here ?

    And I'm sure the bloat is starting to fade away a little
    Its time to increase your dose a little then!
    -XL

    jing jai

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    Quote Originally Posted by babyface770 View Post
    Hey guys !!

    I noticed I stopped getting the "numb and tingly" feeling after my shots , anything wrong here ?

    And I'm sure the bloat is starting to fade away a little
    It is normal, be happy...

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