injecting winny is not so bad. stop complane about it. and just do it. u guys joke or do u realy mean this ?? i have done som winny cycles erlier. and i had no problem at all. i agree to a litel pain. but test prop is more painful if u ask me.. by the way i have been reading so alot about this. and it seams that the new way to do winny. is by drinking it. so i will maby give it a try next time.