Yeah I took the stack eqibolan,dermagain and maxteron. I noticed that the eq blew me up like a fat ass but I was supposed to take the maxteron afterwards to cut up but I kept forgetting about it and put on about 2% body fat. I did notice gains in muscle but didn't get the full rip from the maxteron because I didn't take it. Still have it as a matter of fact. But I am back down to my normal body weight and I did notice pretty big muscle gains. I also gained about 10 pounds in 6 weeks. Never juiced (yet) so I can't compare it to the real but if I were you to try it and you don't see gains i guess you can say you learned the hard way. Good luck

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