I think I F'd up my PCT and need help.

[DreamAndConker]

Background:

Been training for 4 years went from 5"11 135lbs to 190lbs in that time. Last year tried my first cycle var only for 6 weeks at 40mg/day saw great gains and did nolva for 3 weeks for pct. No problems whatsoever. I recently finished my second cycle but this time I did var for 8 weeks at 60mg/day saw GREAT gains and did the usual 3 weeks nolva 20mg/day cept this time I feel like I shut down and now I feel like absolute crap. Its been about 3-4 weeks since i last took my nolva and Ive lost about 10 lbs since my var cycle....my strength is down/low libido/depressing thoughts all the time (i think because ive gotten weaker and smaller).

I was originally going to do a Test E cycle after I recovered from this one but I feel so crappy I was thinking of starting 400mg/week now for 12 weeks and run proper HCG/Clomid/Nolva for PCT. Is this a good idea or am I setting myself up for disaster?

PS i have been using tribulus/ZMA/lots of vitamins right now to try and recover but nothing is working. I dont know how long I can go feeling like this for....

[Big]

get bloodwork.

[DreamAndConker]

i tried to make an appt today but im in a remote area and theres a 3 week wait just for the bloodwork and then the results. Id rather not wait if i dont have to im pretty sure my test is low.

[DreamAndConker]

I just was wondering if running the test now is a completely stupid idea cause i hate feeling like this.

[G4R]

I just was wondering if running the test now is a completely stupid idea cause i hate feeling like this.

Take the time to get the bloodwork done. Dont jump on another cycle because you 'think' you have low testosterone.

[G4R]

As a follow up to my post, remember, Test E is a long ester, even if you started taking it now, it would be 4 - 5 weeks before it kicked in, longer than it would be to get the bloodwork.

What are your full stats currently?

Age?
Height?
Weight?
BF%

[DreamAndConker]

whats the worst thing that can happen If i jump on test and do a proper pct after?

[Big]

damage yourself even worse than you already have

[G4R]

damage yourself even worse than you already have

^^^ Yup

Get bloodwork done. You need to find out for sure what is wrong, dont just assume. Be safe about this.

[DreamAndConker]

As a follow up to my post, remember, Test E is a long ester, even if you started taking it now, it would be 4 - 5 weeks before it kicked in, longer than it would be to get the bloodwork.

What are your full stats currently?

Age?
Height?
Weight?
BF%

24
5"11
174
12-13%

end of the cycle i was 182 and 10%

feels like everything I worked for was wasted.

[DreamAndConker]

so test prop eod might be a better option?

[G4R]

so test prop eod might be a better option?

Bloodwork is the best option. Dont cycle right now.

[DreamAndConker]

kk will do

so lets say my results come back and my total/free test are well below average. Then what?

[G4R]

kk will do

so lets say my results come back and my total/free test are well below average. Then what?

Thats up to your doctor. Sometimes they will put you on TRT.

[DreamAndConker]

argghhh k

its just so frustrating. i want to get better now lol

any advice in the meantime? and do u think this is normal for running var only cycle?

btw i really apprecaite your

[DreamAndConker]

argghhh k

its just so frustrating. i want to get better now lol

any advice in the meantime? and do u think this is normal for running var only cycle?

btw i really apprecaite your responses

[G4R]

It seems odd for Var, but, everyone is different.

[azizi123]

Hi, when did u start feeling poo etc.?
I'm on my second var only cycle, 1st was 8 weeks 40mg 2 weeks 60mg, now I'm doing 6 weeks at 70mg. 10 days in and I feel good... Dnt know if this is the rule and that but when I'm on var I feel great and get more horny, like if the gf dnt put out il be bashing 2/3/4 times a day.

[Noles12]

Truthfully if this happened to me i would question my Var.
People are often scammed by being given winny instead and told it is Var due to the great difference in price.

Those results may make me wonder if i was actually using winny

[Morgoth]

You should have done a PCT of 40/40/20/20. Just because Var is milder than injectibles doesn't mean your PCT should be mild.

[BROKEN]

are you sure you have always been good?

just asking because if you are 5'11" and were 135lbs something isnt right...IMHO

[NMacFar]

are you sure you have always been good?

just asking because if you are 5'11" and were 135lbs something isnt right...IMHO

Not really, I was once 135 lbs at 5' 10" and now i'm over 200lbs... Some people are just VERRRRYYYYY thin.