You'll want to read this!

[Ronnie Rowland]

lmao, well, i wondered that about ron, but i have asked him twice now since i've been answering the odd q, if he wants me to shut my face (cause that would be better than a punch in the face from big ron :bbaily: )
but he hasn't said yes or no, so i continue to try to help. I still go to ron with questions too, and am the first to admit that he is way wiser than me, but i feel the things i'm helping people with are the things that have gotten so monotonous to ron, that he wouldn't mind someone answering these types of questions. I don't mean to hijack his thread in any way, i just see a dozen questions come to him (mine probably make up half those lol), and he's so busy that he doesn't get a chance to answer them all till like a week later. (no offence ron, we all know your busy, and appreciate your help).
Anyways, yes that's all i do for traps. Remember, traps get a lot of carry over from back day if you're doing heavy deads, rack pulls etc. Oh, and nice getting me back with the chairshot

i'm just gonna put this out there, if anyone feels the same as chrisx, and would like the idea of me having my own q&a thread, please feel free to speak up and say so. I love helping you guys out in any way i can, and if you'd like me to do it in my own thread, let me know!

please keep my thread to "q and a" and not turn it into a chat thread. If you want to start your own q and a thread then please do it in your own thread.

[Archangel.]

please keep my thread to "q and a" and not turn it into a chat thread. If you want to start your own q and a thread then please do it in your own thread.

Not a problem, sorry for the inconvenience, Ron.

[Ronnie Rowland]

Not a problem, sorry for the inconvenience, Ron.

Thank you for understanding!

[sixey]

awesome thread, just read through a good 30 pages and only am stopping to post this lol. so for my first cycle i am going to be running test prop for 8-10 weeks (i know your a big proponent of the longer cycles, slingshots, etc...but for my first cycle i just want to do a short and very basic cycle)

anyways, the only worries i have about cycling is the potential for gyno and acne. i know both of these are caused by uneven/fluctuating hormone levels (and genetics to some degree). with the prop i am going to be doing 75mg injects everyday, based on members experience and some graphs posted, the smaller and more frequent prop injects are the best bet for stable blood levels and minimal inject pain. but i am still trying to pin down what i should do for estro control on cycle. after reading through alot of your posts, i see you think that most people dont even need estro control drugs like adex/aromasin on cycle. to be honest i am more scared of the cancer drugs like adex, aromasin, nolva, clomid, etc than any steroid i ever plan on taking. would i be fine not taking an AI during my cycle but having say some adex and nolva on hand just in case i have some gyno or estro issues? i have proviron also and this seems to be another favored option...?

and as far as HCG, everyone has recommended running it during cycle to make pct much easier and quicker, that would also mean using much less SERM's which is very important to me. but i have seen two schools of thought on this, one is running HCG during cycle, discontinuing a few weeks before PCT, then using the typical SERM regimen. however i have also seen some people recommending using it through PCT because it does after all stimulate testicular function.

so im basically asking your for your opinion and guidance in helping me keep my estro in check on cycle to prevent gyno/acne but also not completely kill it so my gains suck, and also if it is possible to get away with using the least amount of SERM's possible?

thanks in advance man, and sorry for the lengthy read, just wanted to explain my concerns the best i could

[sixey]

awesome thread, just read through a good 30 pages and only am stopping to post this lol. so for my first cycle i am going to be running test prop for 8-10 weeks (i know your a big proponent of the longer cycles, slingshots, etc...but for my first cycle i just want to do a short and very basic cycle)

anyways, the only worries i have about cycling is the potential for gyno and acne. i know both of these are caused by uneven/fluctuating hormone levels (and genetics to some degree). with the prop i am going to be doing 75mg injects everyday, based on members experience and some graphs posted, the smaller and more frequent prop injects are the best bet for stable blood levels and minimal inject pain. but i am still trying to pin down what i should do for estro control on cycle. after reading through alot of your posts, i see you think that most people dont even need estro control drugs like adex/aromasin on cycle. to be honest i am more scared of the cancer drugs like adex, aromasin, nolva, clomid, etc than any steroid i ever plan on taking. would i be fine not taking an AI during my cycle but having say some adex and nolva on hand just in case i have some gyno or estro issues? i have proviron also and this seems to be another favored option...?

and as far as HCG, everyone has recommended running it during cycle to make pct much easier and quicker, that would also mean using much less SERM's which is very important to me. but i have seen two schools of thought on this, one is running HCG during cycle, discontinuing a few weeks before PCT, then using the typical SERM regimen. however i have also seen some people recommending using it through PCT because it does after all stimulate testicular function.

so im basically asking your for your opinion and guidance in helping me keep my estro in check on cycle to prevent gyno/acne but also not completely kill it so my gains suck, and also if it is possible to get away with using the least amount of SERM's possible?

thanks in advance man, and sorry for the lengthy read, just wanted to explain my concerns the best i could

since posting this i have read alot more and have simplified my above questions

if i am doing a 8-10 week cycle and planning on using HCG during PCT, would it be better to start HCG around week 1-2 or wait until week 4-5 after starting my cycle? (PCT would include HCG and nolva)(considering a slight test taper as well, trying to learn more about the pros/cons of that)

also, i was hoping you could clear some things up regarding the estro issues on cycle. if i am experiencing excessive acne/oily skin, then aromasin would be the ideal choice. but if acne/etc is not an issue but i am starting to see gyno flare up then nolva would be ideal because it would just target the breast tissue right? my hopes are that IF my balance is out of wack and i am getting sides, the aromasin will be able to balance things out...if not i will have to resort to some low dose accutane to keep my acne/oily skin in check (i have experience with acne drugs and if it gets bad, a low dose, 10mg ed of accutane is my only hope of not having a pizza face lol)

thanks man, after reading through about 40 pages you are one of the few guys whose opinion i really trust

[Ronnie Rowland]

since posting this i have read alot more and have simplified my above questions

if i am doing a 8-10 week cycle and planning on using HCG during PCT, would it be better to start HCG around week 1-2 or wait until week 4-5 after starting my cycle? (PCT would include HCG and nolva)(considering a slight test taper as well, trying to learn more about the pros/cons of that)You do not need to run hcg with a short 10 week cycle.
also, i was hoping you could clear some things up regarding the estro issues on cycle. if i am experiencing excessive acne/oily skin, then aromasin would be the ideal choice. ! Aromasin does not stop acne! but if acne/etc is not an issue but i am starting to see gyno flare up then nolva would be ideal because it would just target the breast tissue right? I would go with aromasin over nolvadex. Nolvadex would be okay on a short term basis but not a goo dplan to follow on a long term basis. Remember, there is little to no estrogen rebound when going off aromasin but with nolvadex there will be a substantial rebound . my hopes are that [b]IF my balance is out of wack and i am getting sides, the aromasin will be able to balance things out...if not i will have to resort to some low dose accutane to keep my acne/oily skin in check (i have experience with acne drugs and if it gets bad, a low dose, 10mg ed of accutane is my only hope of not having a pizza face lol)Accutane works but don't abuse the stuff as it can have serious adverse side effects.

thanks man, after reading through about 40 pages you are one of the few guys whose opinion i really trust

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[Ronnie Rowland]

awesome thread, just read through a good 30 pages and only am stopping to post this lol. so for my first cycle i am going to be running test prop for 8-10 weeks (i know your a big proponent of the longer cycles, slingshots, etc...but for my first cycle i just want to do a short and very basic cycle)

anyways, the only worries i have about cycling is the potential for gyno and acne. i know both of these are caused by uneven/fluctuating hormone levels (and genetics to some degree). with the prop i am going to be doing 75mg injects everyday, based on members experience and some graphs posted, the smaller and more frequent prop injects are the best bet for stable blood levels and minimal inject pain. This is actually incorrect. Blood levels stay more stable with long acting versions of test like enanth and cypionate. Prop causes more of a surge because it peaks higher even though it does not kick in faster than the slower acting versions of test. For less sides prop needs to be injected daily just like tren ace! but i am still trying to pin down what i should do for estro control on cycle. after reading through alot of your posts, i see you think that most people dont even need estro control drugs like adex/aromasin on cycle. to be honest i am more scared of the cancer drugs like adex, aromasin, nolva, clomid, etc than any steroid i ever plan on taking. I believe a lot of bodybuilders are having early heart trouble from taking anti-es because it increases bad cholesterol. It's stupid to take anti-es other than controlling gyno pain IMO. The stuff is very bad for you! would i be fine not taking an AI during my cycle but having say some adex and nolva on hand just in case i have some gyno or estro issues? i have proviron also and this seems to be another favored option...?Go with the weaker proviron at teh start of your cycle and keep others on hand in case it appears and starts causing pain.
and as far as HCG, everyone has recommended running it during cycle to make pct much easier and quicker, that would also mean using much less SERM's which is very important to me. but i have seen two schools of thought on this, one is running HCG during cycle, discontinuing a few weeks before PCT, then using the typical SERM regimen. however i have also seen some people recommending using it through PCT because it does after all stimulate testicular function.

so im basically asking your for your opinion and guidance in helping me keep my estro in check on cycle to prevent gyno/acne but also not completely kill it so my gains suck, and also if it is possible to get away with using the least amount of SERM's possible? Anti-es can absolutely kill your sex drive so I see no purpose in using steroids at all if you lose your libido. What good is it too look great yet have no desire!? With a short cycle use hcg post cycle. Acne is something you have no control over and it tends to get better once your hormones stabilize.

thanks in advance man, and sorry for the lengthy read, just wanted to explain my concerns the best i could

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[sixey]

Aromasin does not stop acne!

i was just referring to it the sense that, if i have estro imbalance issues on cycle, the aromasin would be the best bet for control without overkill...and evening out the hormone levels should help control the acne. (a good member on here posted an article about how its not necessarily the high test that causes acne, its the fluxuation of levels, or having test/estro balance out of whack)

You do not need to run hcg with a short 10 week cycle.

well a 10-12 week cycle will def shut me down, so based on what everyone has been telling me, HCG 200-250iu twice a week will help offset whatever little atrophy i might get, and make my PCT much easier. i would much rather use HCG during/post cycle if it would allow me to use less nolva for PCT. but since HCG does effect estrogen, would using it on cycle neccesitate aromasin, or again will that be on a "only if needed basis"? i was reading through alot of your past posts and you seem to be a big fan of using HCG over the SERM's to basically accomplish the same thing so i am very interested in that.

[VASCULAR VINCE]

ronnie...do you buy into muscle confusion.....switching to different exercises each time you lift?????why or why not??!!

[VASCULAR VINCE]

fact or fiction..ronnie????

here be the quote from one of the vets magic "Sadly, what a lot of people don't realize is that it isn't aromatization or even the estro that incites gyno. This is why even while taking something as suppressive as Aromasin, a person can STILL get gyno. It also doesn't matter what's used as the combatant (preventive or post-gyno). All of these are myths that are perpetuated by parroted information throughout multiple forums and sites. Plus estro is estro, thus all these use Adex, Ldex, Mas, Nolva, Bromo, Caber people depending on your gear are also off.

The truth is that gyno is the product of the Test/Estro imbalance...period. Only this delicate ratio matters and when it’s altered, even a little, the individual becomes susceptible (obviously to varying degrees) regardless of the reason for imbalance or age (as even VERY little boys have acquired it), regardless of the increase be it elevated pure estro, or other ancillary-related estro-based hormones...prolac, proges, etc.

But if this is true, why do only some people get it while others never do? Good question.

Unfortunately genetics play a MAJOR factor, more specifically how sensitive an individual is to said imbalance which is based largely on their starting ratio. Because of this one person can acquire it at the start of single Test-only cycle; another for the first time after several years of complex stacks/cocktails and; yet another may never even experience minor symptoms. It really is a crap shoot, but the good news is that research shows that with proper tx, dosage and duration gyno at ANY STAGE and with ANY ORIGIN can be reversed...either completely in some, or very satisfactorily in others."
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[Ronnie Rowland]

ronnie...do you buy into muscle confusion.....switching to different exercises each time you lift?????why or why not??!!No, because muscle confusion does not work! In fact, it can deter progress when you jump around from one exercise to another each time you train because it decreases specific adaptations and it can cause injury when you go balls to the wall on a new exercise that does not agree with your biomechanics. Changing sets, reps and time between sets can be good but not changing exercises. If you want to make the most progress possible then continue using the same productive exercises over and over again!

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[Ronnie Rowland]

i was just referring to it the sense that, if i have estro imbalance issues on cycle, the aromasin would be the best bet for control without overkill...and evening out the hormone levels should help control the acne. (a good member on here posted an article about how its not necessarily the high test that causes acne, its the fluxuation of levels, or having test/estro balance out of whack)Well, it's not just an estro/test imbalance that causes acne, it's a hormonal change of any kind. For example, tren does not convert over to estrogen but it can certainly cause severe acne. In addition, when you come off steroids like test you can once again have a bad break out even though androgen and estrogens are on the decline.

well a 10-12 week cycle will def shut me down, so based on what everyone has been telling me, HCG 200-250iu twice a week will help offset whatever little atrophy i might get, and make my PCT much easier. i would much rather use HCG during/post cycle if it would allow me to use less nolva for PCT. You won't need nolva for PCT if anti-es are not used but go ahead and run the HCG during the entire cycle if you want. It's not going to hurt anything except increase estrogen. but since HCG does effect estrogen, would using it on cycle neccesitate aromasin, or again will that be on a "only if needed basis"? It would only need to be used on an as need basis. Aromasin is stronger than arimidex but it can also hinder gains more than arimidex. i was reading through alot of your past posts and you seem to be a big fan of using HCG over the SERM's to basically accomplish the same thing so i am very interested in that.HCG is the best !

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[sixey]

It would only need to be used on an as need basis. Aromasin is stronger than arimidex but it can also hinder gains more than arimidex.

hmm, aromasin seems to be the AI of choice for most because it is easier on the lipids/etc...but if it is one of the stronger AI's and therefore = potentially less gains if you end up having to use it on cycle...would using low dose a-dex be a better idea?

its tough to get a solid answer, because there are two really solid backings for both aromasin and a-dex. so basically, if i was forced to run a low dose of an AI on cycle, which would be the ideal option?