Ok this is my 9th or 10th cyc, pretty sure 9 but didn't really count.. i'm about 225 lbs, 5'9, not sure on body fat, probably somewhere between 11 and 15 percent. I cut down pretty good after tren last time....... So now I'm running 50 mgs/day of dbol for 4 weeks, tren e 600 mg/week, test e 1000 mg/week for 12 weeks, and I'm thinking about adding winny in toward the end. If I were to do this, at lets say 50 mg/day, how long should i do it and when should i start? week 8? 10? Just curious, cuz I was thinking run it for 4 weeks but just not sure when the best time to start would be. Any ideas? Questions? Comments? Concerns? Thanks as always for your feedback.