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    Prop combined with E? Good or bad?

    To Ronnie (or other forumers),

    My plans have been thwarted. Not sure yet if it’s good or bad. I was just about to start (per Ronnie Rowland’s sling-shot program) an 8-week reload, 2-week deload using 500mgs of Test-E (already bought), when my physician decided to put me on Prop patches (5mgs/hr/day) changing out daily. I have to go back in 4 weeks for follow-up lab to see if my test, B-12, and D, levels are up within normal range, and then every 12 weeks thereafter.

    For this initial 4 weeks I plan on doing just what the Doc said. However, after that I’d like to squeeze in an 8-9 week Test-E cycle on top of the daily patch followed by 2-3 weeks reload of the patch only before taking my next labs. My physician can NOT know about my extracurricular AS use! (Small town, family doctor, news speads fast)!

    Other than low levels of test, B-12, and D, I’m a 49 y/o male in good shape actually! Started lifting 25+ yrs ago while in the Corps and have been doing so since. I walk and hike a lot for cardio.

    Questions:
    • Can Prop and E be used together?
    o If so, how much E should I supplement to the Prop?
    • Will 3 weeks off E before my labs show signs of my “supplemental” AS use?

    Any constructive thoughts or concerns with this plan?

    Thanks so much!

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    Smile news paper article

    I'll get to everyones questions by this weekend.

    Here's a link to a local S.C. newspaper article about Slingshot Training- http://www.aikenstandard.com/results/0612BodyBuilders

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ronnie Rowland View Post
    I'll get to everyones questions by this weekend.

    Here's a link to a local S.C. newspaper article about Slingshot Training- http://www.aikenstandard.com/results/0612BodyBuilders

    Congrats to you and Kathy on your success both in the gym and out!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ronnie Rowland View Post
    I'll get to everyones questions by this weekend.

    Here's a link to a local S.C. newspaper article about Slingshot Training- http://www.aikenstandard.com/results/0612BodyBuilders
    Congratulation to you & kathy...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ronnie Rowland View Post
    I'll get to everyones questions by this weekend.

    Here's a link to a local S.C. newspaper article about Slingshot Training- http://www.aikenstandard.com/results/0612BodyBuilders
    Congratulations to you and Kathy!! You both look awesome!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ronnie Rowland View Post
    I'll get to everyones questions by this weekend.

    Here's a link to a local S.C. newspaper article about Slingshot Training- http://www.aikenstandard.com/results/0612BodyBuilders
    nice article....ron...your wife can make it to the pros!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by vascular vince View Post
    nice article....ron...your wife can make it to the pros!!!
    yes, her work ethic and genetics are there for her age.

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    Quote Originally Posted by old_usmcgrunt View Post
    to ronnie (or other forumers),

    my plans have been thwarted. Not sure yet if it’s good or bad. I was just about to start (per ronnie rowland’s sling-shot program) an 8-week reload, 2-week deload using 500mgs of test-e (already bought), when my physician decided to put me on prop patches (5mgs/hr/day) changing out daily. I have to go back in 4 weeks for follow-up lab to see if my test, b-12, and d, levels are up within normal range, and then every 12 weeks thereafter.

    For this initial 4 weeks i plan on doing just what the doc said. However, after that i’d like to squeeze in an 8-9 week test-e cycle on top of the daily patch followed by 2-3 weeks reload of the patch only before taking my next labs. My physician can not know about my extracurricular as use! (small town, family doctor, news speads fast)!get off test-e 4 weeks prior to having lab work. If you are prone to having elevated hemocrit levels go give blood 1 week before lab work!
    other than low levels of test, b-12, and d, i’m a 49 y/o male in good shape actually! Started lifting 25+ yrs ago while in the corps and have been doing so since. I walk and hike a lot for cardio.

    Questions:
    • can prop and e be used together? yes! Very good combo.
    o if so, how much e should i supplement to the prop? 5-600 mgs per week for starters.• will 3 weeks off e before my labs show signs of my “supplemental” as use? go 4 to be safe. any constructive thoughts or concerns with this plan? lets stay with this for now.

    thanks so much!
    above

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ronnie Rowland View Post
    above
    Excellent! Thanks so much Ronnie! I really appreciate your patience and sharing of your knowledge!

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