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[Ronnie Rowland]

"the difference in gains would be about a 25 percent increase using slingshot compared to the standard 12 week cycle. Post cycle you can expect to maintain about 25% more as well with slingshot but eventually gains will dissipate when you go off regardless of method used."
is this true even if the weight achieved is still under the genetic max weight? Or is it only true if u surpass your genetic max? only if you surpass your natural genetic potential will you lose muscle when coming off. If you use enough growth hormone when coming off you will maintain most, if not all, of your lean muscle mass gains (minus water weight and some strength) even if you have surpassed your genetic potential.
thanks.

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[D@K]

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I probably forgot to mention that this will be my first cycle so I really doubt I will surpass my genetic potential! Hence I will opt as a first cycle for the slingshot method, because the gains are noticeably larger! Thanks again Ron..

One more question, for the cycle i mentioned earlier
(Test e 500mg + dbol 25mg 1st reload
test e 250mg 1st deload
test e 750mg + dbol 50mg 2nd reload
test e 250mg 2nd deload)

When do most of the gains come? Is the 2nd reload/deload even comparable to the 1st one with respect to gains? And have you seen anyone suffering liver problems for going on dbol this much? (16 weeks out of 20!)

[Ronnie Rowland]

I probably forgot to mention that this will be my first cycle so I really doubt I will surpass my genetic potential! Hence I will opt as a first cycle for the slingshot method, because the gains are noticeably larger! Thanks again Ron..

One more question, for the cycle i mentioned earlier
(Test e 500mg + dbol 25mg 1st reload
test e 250mg 1st deload
test e 750mg + dbol 50mg 2nd reload
test e 250mg 2nd deload)

When do most of the gains come? Is the 2nd reload/deload even comparable to the 1st one with respect to gains? And have you seen anyone suffering liver problems for going on dbol this much? (16 weeks out of 20!) Okay then, you do not need d-bol for a first cycle! Use test-e or test-c only. Keep it as you have it minus the d-bol. The first reload is going to be better in terms of gaining strength and weight but the second 8 week reload will harden your musculature and cause the gains to be more permanent. I have known of some people to get elevated liver enzmes with 16 weeks of d-bol usages but they return to normal 4-8 weeks later when they go off.

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