Im app 220 lbs 5 '10 and my goal is to become more cut. Ive tried alot of different combinations but this seems to work for me .I have very little body fat but I do have an ectomorphic body type and always seem to carry a certain amount of subcutaneous water which is extremely difficult for me to get rid of. what has worked best has been the winni with the strict ketogenic type diet...I am always open to ideas