Winstrol and Fast Twitch Fibers?

[TKO Performance]

Yeah we went over it, but unless you'd like to contradict scientific fact you have to admit that on a per mg basis Winstrol is one of the most hepatoxic steroids in existence. If someone wants to post their blood work taken while on a cycle of Winstrol without running liver support and the values show it not to be as toxic as I've read I'd be more than happy to alter my viewpoint. Baring that I'm going to have to go with all of the research I've read.

The injectible and oral forms while having the same innate liver toxicity are actually very different in practice due to how they are absorbed. The injectible is going to be much less taxing to the liver because it does not actually go through first pass metabolism like the oral. Instead it runs through in second pass, where the damage caused by the 17aa part of it is much less severe. Dosage will matter as well, especially for the oral. Obviously the more you take the more danger and vice versa.

You can also probably avert liver issues while running liver support. However, it is important to note that the danger is still there. Taking precaution does not eliminate the inherent nature of the compound.

[chawdaz11]

The only reason i dont want to take Anavar is because Iv heard it puts on more weight then Winstrol. Im an athlete and want to stay around the same weight so I heard Winstrol was a good cutter that helped with power and speed. edit, marcus300

[Swifto]

Yeah we went over it, but unless you'd like to contradict scientific fact you have to admit that on a per mg basis Winstrol is one of the most hepatoxic steroids in existence. If someone wants to post their blood work taken while on a cycle of Winstrol without running liver support and the values show it not to be as toxic as I've read I'd be more than happy to alter my viewpoint. Baring that I'm going to have to go with all of the research I've read.

The injectible and oral forms while having the same innate liver toxicity are actually very different in practice due to how they are absorbed. The injectible is going to be much less taxing to the liver because it does not actually go through first pass metabolism like the oral. Instead it runs through in second pass, where the damage caused by the 17aa part of it is much less severe. Dosage will matter as well, especially for the oral. Obviously the more you take the more danger and vice versa.

You can also probably avert liver issues while running liver support. However, it is important to note that the danger is still there. Taking precaution does not eliminate the inherent nature of the compound.

I'm not denying Winstrol is one of the more hepatoxic compounds, re-read my post. Infact, I didnt say anything about Winstrol's hepatoxicty compared to other (AAS) orals TKO.

I've had BW done on Winstrol upto 50-75mg/ED for over 6 weeks with minimal impact on liver values (alone). I've also had BW done with Dbol and Tbol for over 13 weeks. Plus I consumed alcohol.

My liver values were the highest on Tbol at 60mg/ED, but I had BW done after a moderate/high alcohol session. Not a good idea I know. But baseline values returned after 5-6 days.

Hepatoxicity is overrated in my experience.

I have found orals have more of an impact on my lipids than actual hepatoxicity.