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[delta1111]

Ronnie,
Is it possible to lose fat through cardio and build muscle at the same time? or should one bulk then cut?

[Steve.O]

ronnie u state that using test enthanate would be a gud choice for this reloading and deloading method. but durin the cruising stages of the deloading how would this be effective as u say to cruise 4 two weeks but u wouldnt realy have much off a break from the dosage because of the ester and half life in the enthanate would you? cheers 4 yor time

[Ronnie Rowland]

ronnie u state that using test enthanate would be a gud choice for this reloading and deloading method. But durin the cruising stages of the deloading how would this be effective as u say to cruise 4 two weeks but u wouldnt realy have much off a break from the dosage because of the ester and half life in the enthanate would you? Cheers 4 yor time

it's enough time to prevent
hard earned muscle/strength loss. Give it a try and see for yourself!

[SomeRandomGuy]

So basically if a drop in active mg can be achieved during the 2 weeks deload, however slight (as in no pinning during these 2 weeks), this will still help the body during the next 8 week reload? With the long esters; Enanthate/Decanoate, discontinuing during the 2 week deload is not going to drop the mg all that much, but it will drop it some. But wouldn't this make it take longer to build back up in the next 8 week reload? Now if only I understood the formula for half lives... Maybe I'll calculate exactly what the levels would be.

Oh and the last deload; weeks 19-20, that isn't necessary unless you're planning on staying on forever, right?

Should have gotten some Test Prop/Nandrolone Phenylpropionate/Tren Acetate or something along those lines. Wouldn't shorter esters work better for STS? That way you could have a big drop during the 2 weeks, and bring those levels back up to peak very quickly afterwards. Not that long esters won't work too, but the drop and rise won't be as exaggerated.

[Ronnie Rowland]

So basically if a drop in active mg can be achieved during the 2 weeks deload, however slight (as in no pinning during these 2 weeks), this will still help the body during the next 8 week reload? yes, but you keep pinning once a week during deloads. With the long esters; Enanthate/Decanoate, discontinuing during the 2 week deload is not going to drop the mg all that much, but it will drop it some. But wouldn't this make it take longer to build back up in the next 8 week reload? No, it builds up in only a few days! Now if only I understood the formula for half lives... Maybe I'll calculate exactly what the levels would be.

Oh and the last deload; weeks 19-20, that isn't necessary unless you're planning on staying on forever, right? The deload is very important as it allows gains made during the reload to become finalyzed!
Should have gotten some Test Prop/Nandrolone Phenylpropionate/Tren Acetate or something along those lines. Wouldn't shorter esters work better for STS? That way you could have a big drop during the 2 weeks, and bring those levels back up to peak very quickly afterwards. Not that long esters won't work too, but the drop and rise won't be as exaggerated. It all depends on the person. Some people do not fare well with short acting esters but some do. Some do best using both long and short acting esters during reload!

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[Ronnie Rowland]

[QUOTE=delta1111;5380702]Ronnie,
Is it possible to lose fat through cardio and build muscle at the same time? or should one bulk then cut? IT'S POSSIBLE IF YOU ARE JUST STARTING TO WORK OUT WITH WEIGHTS OR YOU ARE DOING YOUR VERY FIRST CYCLE OF STEROIDS. IT'S ALSO POSSIBLE TO GET CUT AND GAIN MASS USING HIGH DOSAGES OF GROWTH HORMONE WITH A CALORIE SURPLUS. BUT, IN YOUR CASE, YOU MUST CHOOSE BETWEEN LEAN BULKING OR LEANING DOWN AS YOU WON'T BE ABLE TO EFFECTIVELY DO BOTH.[/QUOTE]ABOVE

[delta1111]

[QUOTE=Ronnie Rowland;5385982]

Ronnie,
Is it possible to lose fat through cardio and build muscle at the same time? or should one bulk then cut? IT'S POSSIBLE IF YOU ARE JUST STARTING TO WORK OUT WITH WEIGHTS OR YOU ARE DOING YOUR VERY FIRST CYCLE OF STEROIDS. IT'S ALSO POSSIBLE TO GET CUT AND GAIN MASS USING HIGH DOSAGES OF GROWTH HORMONE WITH A CALORIE SURPLUS. BUT, IN YOUR CASE, YOU MUST CHOOSE BETWEEN LEAN BULKING OR LEANING DOWN AS YOU WON'T BE ABLE TO EFFECTIVELY DO BOTH.[/QUOTE]ABOVE

"LEAN BULKING OR LEANING DOWN" Please explain.
And is this like I said bulking then cutting?
Thanks Ronnie.

[Ronnie Rowland]

[QUOTE=delta1111;5388055]

"LEAN BULKING OR LEANING DOWN" Please explain. LEAN BULK IS GAINING WEIGHT SLOWLY WITH MOSTLY CLEAN EATING. LEANING DOWN IS DIETING DOWN AND LOSING WEIGHT.And is this like I said bulking then cutting? YES BUT DON'T GO TO EXTREMES WITH CALORIE INCREASES WHEN BULKING UNLESS YOU ARE ECTO-MESO WHO GAINS MOSTLY MUSCLE IN A CALORIE SURPLUS AS IT'S TOO HARD TO DIET OFF THE FAT!Thanks Ronnie.

ABOVE