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    I think the two students need to spend some time in jail. They had no right to film him, and to distribute the film. They only filmed him because he was gay, clearly they have a problem with his sexual identity. I don't think they would've filmed him if he was with a girl. I think these two monsters have committed a federal crime, and a hate crime.

    At the end of the day, they have ruined the life of a promising young man, which lead to his suicide. They should be punished. Jail time is a must for me.
    If he had decent people around him, I think he would have found himself, and would have been fine in a couple of year's time.

    Also, depending on what these two are studying, a criminal record could ruin future job prospects. A small consolation, but at least their lives would be ruined.

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    U.S. Sen. Frank Lautenberg said Wednesday he'll introduce legislation requiring colleges to adopt a code of conduct that prohibits bullying and harassment following the suicide of a student whose gay sexual encounter in his dorm room was broadcast online.

    Lautenberg, D-N.J., made the announcement at a town meeting on the Rutgers University campus in memory of 18-year-old freshman Tyler Clementi.

    Clementi, a promising violinist, jumped off the George Washington Bridge into the Hudson River on Sept. 22 after the intimate images of him with another man were webcast, and his body was identified days later.

    Clementi's roommate, Dharun Ravi, and another Rutgers freshman, Molly Wei, both 18, have been charged with invasion of privacy, and authorities are weighing whether bias crime charges should be added.

    Clementi's death has prompted a national discussion on the plight of young gay people and bullying. The Rutgers event, organized by the university and the gay rights activist group Garden State Equality, drew about 300 students and others, including U.S. Sen. Robert Menendez, D-N.J., U.S. Rep. Frank Pallone, D-N.J., and actress/comedienne Judy Gold, a Rutgers grad and gay activist who won two Daytime Emmy Awards as a writer and producer for "The Rosie O'Donnell Show."

    "No one could have heard about this degradation he suffered without feeling pain themselves," Lautenberg said. "This is a major problem, and we're going to fix it."

    Gold expressed outrage at the pain inflicted on Clementi. "What happened to him was not just an invasion of privacy. This was just sick," she said.

    Lautenberg said his bill would require colleges and universities that receive federal student aid to create policies prohibiting harassment of any student. Such policies are not currently required by federal law, he said. The bill also would provide funding for schools to establish programs to deter harassment of students.

    Clementi's death was one of a string of suicides last month involving teens believed to have been victims of anti-gay bullying.

    Just days after Clementi's body was recovered, more than 500 people attended a memorial service for a 13-year-old central California boy, Seth Walsh, who hanged himself after enduring taunts from classmates about being gay.

    Earlier Wednesday, Ravi's lawyer, Steven D. Altman, issued a statement saying he was "heartened to hear" that investigators are taking their time "to learn all the facts before rushing to judgment" about whether to file bias charges against his client. Altman said he hoped the public would do the same.

    "I am confident that nothing will be learned to justify, warrant or support the filing of any bias criminal complaint," Altman said.

    Middlesex County prosecutor Bruce Kaplan said earlier this week that he wouldn't rush the investigation into Clementi's death. His spokesman said Wednesday there was nothing new to report.

    Lawyers for Wei released a statement Tuesday saying she was innocent and extending sympathy to the Clementi family.

    "This is a tragic situation," the statement said. "But this tragedy has also unfairly led to rampant speculation and misinformation, which threaten to overwhelm the actual facts of the matter. Those true facts will reveal that Molly is innocent."

    Ravi, of Plainsboro, and Wei, of Princeton, each could face up to five years in prison if convicted on the invasion of privacy charge.

    Clementi's family has said little. In a statement last week, it said it hoped the tragedy would "serve as a call for compassion, empathy and human dignity."

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    Quote Originally Posted by DSM4Life View Post


    U.S. Sen. Frank Lautenberg said Wednesday he'll introduce legislation requiring colleges to adopt a code of conduct that prohibits bullying and harassment following the suicide of a student whose gay sexual encounter in his dorm room was broadcast online.

    Lautenberg, D-N.J., made the announcement at a town meeting on the Rutgers University campus in memory of 18-year-old freshman Tyler Clementi.

    Clementi, a promising violinist, jumped off the George Washington Bridge into the Hudson River on Sept. 22 after the intimate images of him with another man were webcast, and his body was identified days later.

    Clementi's roommate, Dharun Ravi, and another Rutgers freshman, Molly Wei, both 18, have been charged with invasion of privacy, and authorities are weighing whether bias crime charges should be added.

    Clementi's death has prompted a national discussion on the plight of young gay people and bullying. The Rutgers event, organized by the university and the gay rights activist group Garden State Equality, drew about 300 students and others, including U.S. Sen. Robert Menendez, D-N.J., U.S. Rep. Frank Pallone, D-N.J., and actress/comedienne Judy Gold, a Rutgers grad and gay activist who won two Daytime Emmy Awards as a writer and producer for "The Rosie O'Donnell Show."

    "No one could have heard about this degradation he suffered without feeling pain themselves," Lautenberg said. "This is a major problem, and we're going to fix it."

    Gold expressed outrage at the pain inflicted on Clementi. "What happened to him was not just an invasion of privacy. This was just sick," she said.

    Lautenberg said his bill would require colleges and universities that receive federal student aid to create policies prohibiting harassment of any student. Such policies are not currently required by federal law, he said. The bill also would provide funding for schools to establish programs to deter harassment of students.

    Clementi's death was one of a string of suicides last month involving teens believed to have been victims of anti-gay bullying.

    Just days after Clementi's body was recovered, more than 500 people attended a memorial service for a 13-year-old central California boy, Seth Walsh, who hanged himself after enduring taunts from classmates about being gay.

    Earlier Wednesday, Ravi's lawyer, Steven D. Altman, issued a statement saying he was "heartened to hear" that investigators are taking their time "to learn all the facts before rushing to judgment" about whether to file bias charges against his client. Altman said he hoped the public would do the same.

    "I am confident that nothing will be learned to justify, warrant or support the filing of any bias criminal complaint," Altman said.

    Middlesex County prosecutor Bruce Kaplan said earlier this week that he wouldn't rush the investigation into Clementi's death. His spokesman said Wednesday there was nothing new to report.

    Lawyers for Wei released a statement Tuesday saying she was innocent and extending sympathy to the Clementi family.

    "This is a tragic situation," the statement said. "But this tragedy has also unfairly led to rampant speculation and misinformation, which threaten to overwhelm the actual facts of the matter. Those true facts will reveal that Molly is innocent."

    Ravi, of Plainsboro, and Wei, of Princeton, each could face up to five years in prison if convicted on the invasion of privacy charge.

    Clementi's family has said little. In a statement last week, it said it hoped the tragedy would "serve as a call for compassion, empathy and human dignity."
    sounds like they're trying to put the responsibility or at least future responsibility of similar student behaviors on the school(finanial aid)

    there is law in place already

    my prediction is they'll take a plea(invasion of privacy) and serve a month or two

    unfortunately the victim gave his life from the crime and a month or two doesnt fit but they cant be held accountable for his death...imo

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    Im kinda with Zimmy on this...

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    Zimmy takes it a little too far and when called out on it he just walks away.

    I agree with above, charge them criminally with the max sentence for invasion of privacy. If that means jail time so be it but it shouldn't be manslaughter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DSM4Life View Post
    If I am correct, if there is no intent but someone dies because of ones action that equals manslaughter.

    Example. A drunk driver crashes his car into someone elses car and they die. The drunk driver did not intend to hurt anyone but because of his actions he did.
    Your example is not a fair comparision. Drinking and then getting behind the wheel of a vehicle is something that everyone knows is dangerous. Killing someone in that condition, it can be said there is a clear cause and effect. Filming someone making out, I would argue there is no direct link between cause and effect. UNLESS this person has been so heavily traumitized, so victimized, that this is a "straw that broke the camel's back" type situation, and all the previous "pranks" were known by the group of individuals that did the filming. Since the article is silent on this, it would be a leap to assume it has, an unfair leap, I would add.

    Then again, I've never had to go through what this young man experienced. he wasn't being too secretive about meeting with the other young man, since he was having s3x in a college room where others had a key to the room. To me, it would seem if others had a key, even though they agreed to certain hours, it would seem there is a plausible risk of discovery. If he was ultra concerned about keeping his orientation a secret, you would think he would have went somewhere where the risk of discovery was less, like a hotel. So in the back of his mind, the risk of discovery was NOT zero, so he must have been OK with that risk? the internet thing is a whole other thing,

    I don't know, mates. Like a dude trying to understand how a woman feels after she's been raped. I don't have anything in my experience like this or that to really understand how it feels, I can only guess.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DSM4Life View Post
    I agree with above, charge them criminally with the max sentence for invasion of privacy. If that means jail time so be it but it shouldn't be manslaughter.
    That seems about right to me.

    I had a GF once that told me about a third of women get raped sometime during their life (she had been raped). So, DSM, about gays getting beat up due to their orientation, just guessing, what % of gays get beat up because they are gay? I'm asking, since again, nothing in my experience to relate to, and I really would like to know. A good friend of mine, her brother got his asss kicked alot in highschool, so I'm guessing at least a double digit %???

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    Quote Originally Posted by Times Roman View Post
    That seems about right to me.

    I had a GF once that told me about a third of women get raped sometime during their life (she had been raped). So, DSM, about gays getting beat up due to their orientation, just guessing, what % of gays get beat up because they are gay? I'm asking, since again, nothing in my experience to relate to, and I really would like to know. A good friend of mine, her brother got his asss kicked alot in highschool, so I'm guessing at least a double digit %???
    Man..... if you "came out" in my high school..... your ass would have been teased to no end. It really would have made anyones life hell. Our school did start a "Gay/Straight ******** club" and I remember kids saying they wanted to wait in the hall to see who went to the meetings.

    I've always maintained my own opinion regardless of other influences. I never cared about someones sexual orientation and never understood why anyone else would care. Theres no justification to beat someone up for being gay/lesbian - it really takes a weak person who has underlying issues to do something like that.

    LMAO i've recently been ridiculed by some of my friends for being friends with a few tranny's. I introduced those friends to my tranny friends one night and now they're friends also LOL! You never know who you're passing by if you never give them a chance.

    ~Haz~

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    Quote Originally Posted by Times Roman View Post
    That seems about right to me.

    I had a GF once that told me about a third of women get raped sometime during their life (she had been raped). So, DSM, about gays getting beat up due to their orientation, just guessing, what % of gays get beat up because they are gay? I'm asking, since again, nothing in my experience to relate to, and I really would like to know. A good friend of mine, her brother got his asss kicked alot in highschool, so I'm guessing at least a double digit %???
    What kind of drugs was she on? To claim that a third of all women get raped during their life is ridiculous. I am really tired of hearing people making men out to be monsters, who can't think clearly unless they ejaculate. Talk about sexism!

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