HGH options

[jonnyp22]

Hey guys.. I wanted to get the rules straight before I post something, so i'm sorry about the last post..

I have two different types of HGH's.. I was wondering if I can ask about them and which one is better for bulking and the actual difference between the two.. I typed in the name and it came up blanked out so I figured I should ask before I post that.. any advice?

[boxin23]

post up pics on the hgh forum...ask there...

if they are good quality it doesnt matter.

[jonnyp22]

what is the rule though? can I not say brand names or something?? can I describe the kits?? i'd rather not take pictures..

[boxin23]

no names are allowed....types are allowed...just not lab names.

you can describe it....but a pic is better.

do you not trust your source?

you can also start taking it and go get some lab work done. do it with both and you will know for sure which one is best!

[jonnyp22]

I was wondering the difference in these two hgh kits..

The first one says H...(can't say the rest) and says Recombinant Human Growth Hormone and is a powdery type substabce on the bottom.
The other says IP on it and says HGH 176-191 5mg and is more white chunks than powder.

I can get either just was wondering what the difference is if anyone can help me i'd appreciate it.. i've researched, but want to know which would be better for bulking

[boxin23]

get some more posts and you can PM me.

also just so you know if you plan on BULKING with HGH....get ready for a long long.....long.....long haul....

all the bodybuilders i know that compete use it as a kinda sidekick to their program. It helps them stay lean, of course with aging issues it helps, but they actually grow new muscle cells. But it is super slow and they do not use it as a bulker.......they use FOOD to bulk....AAS just helps them get past their walls.....

i don't know your stats either.....and your goals?

[jonnyp22]

I've actually got everything set up with about 8 months of hgh and a cycle of tren and test.. if you want to take a look at my other posts all the information is there. I just came across the IP and didnt know which I should keep..

[SlimmerMe]

post up pics on the hgh forum...ask there...

if they are good quality it doesnt matter.

Good idea. Note: White out any and all type/print on the vial.

[jonnyp22]

Good idea. Note: White out any and all type/print on the vial.

I'd rather not go through all that trouble haha

[boxin23]

is the stuff that starts with H from china with blue tops?

[jonnyp22]

is the stuff that starts with H from china with blue tops?

yes it is

[jonnyp22]

I believe the other is too.. but that has pink writing on the label and has green tops

[boxin23]

well i dont wanna say anything in this open forum.....you are basically source checking....i was just curious.....get 100 posts and pm me. Ill tell you what i know.

good luck and either way i would take it and go get tested....

[jonnyp22]

.get 100 posts and pm me. Ill tell you what i know.

Isn't it 50 posts?

[jonnyp22]

.get 100 posts and pm me. Ill tell you what i know.

Isn't it 50 posts?

[jonnyp22]

good luck and either way i would take it and go get tested....

you mean get my levels tested to see how effective it is?? what exactly would I ask for when I go to the doctor.. I have a doc who is a family friendt hat would gladly write me scripts to get bloodwork, I just don't know what exactly to ask for

[boxin23]

you mean get my levels tested to see how effective it is?? what exactly would I ask for when I go to the doctor.. I have a doc who is a family friendt hat would gladly write me scripts to get bloodwork, I just don't know what exactly to ask for

HGH Testing
How to test HGH deficiency?
HGH (human growth hormone) an integral part of human body function, is largely responsibles for the normal growth and metabolism. Different HGH levels are present at different times exercise, sleep, emotional stress and diet.

Just like almost everything else that is responsible for balance and normal function, too much or too little can create serious problems. Excessive HGH during childhood can cause for giantism and deficiency for dwarfism. Both giantism and dwarfism can be treated if diagnosed in time.

Insulin-like growth factor, also known as IGF-1 works in conjunction with HGH. Without IGF-1, the benefits of HGH would never be experienced. Levels of HGH and IGF-1 are proportionate to each other. Measurment of IGF-1 level in the blood stream with specific test, is used to gauge the amount of growth hormone produced in the body. Two blood samples taken on seperate days are necessary for the the test.

Why test for HGH?
As mentioned earlier, there are a multitude of illnesses that can be caused by unhealthy growth hormone secretions. In order to determine if symptoms of an illness are being caused by deficient or excessive production of growth hormone, tests must be conducted. Once such illness is acromegaly, which is usually indicative of an adenoma or a tumor in the pituitary. Testing must also be available during treatment with HGH injections in order to monitor the progress of the patient.

In order to ensure that test results are completely accurate, the individual being tested may be asked to stay relatively still for 15 to 60 minutes prior to blood being drawn for testing. The reason behind this request is that exercise and physical activity affect hormone production. Another form of interference would be certain medications that may need to be eliminated so as not to skew the results. These drugs include estrogen, like that found in birth control pills and corticosteroids. The patient must be sure to mention any kind of prescriptions or over the counter medication being taken before proceeding with this kind of testing.

How is it HGH test done?
More than one blood sample must be taken on different days, due to rapid changing levels of growth hormone. A test measuring IGF-1 levels may be taken in conjunction, as its levels change much slower. Before blood is drawn, the administering health professional should be informed of any disorders or medication being taken which can lead to bleeding at the site of the puncture.

Results of the test usually vary from lab to lab. The basic guideline followed is: For Men 0-5 ng/ml (nanograms per milliliter), women 0-10 ng/ml, and children 0-16 ng/ml. Above normal values on these test results mean above normal levels of HGH. These higher levels may indicate giantism or acromegaly, which are caused by GH producing adenomas or tumors in the pituitary. Such conditions are associated with an increase in IGF-1 levels as well. Increased levels of HGH can also be the result of conditions such as diabetes, kidney disease, even starvation. Unlike giantism and acromegaly, these illnesses are not related increased levels of IGF-1.

There are several methods used to determine whether hormone levels are normal or are causing a problem. Some examples are: growth hormone suppression tests, which measure GH levels before and after consumption of large amounts of sugar. Following a large sugar intake, levels should be low, if they continue to be high, acromegaly could be the problem. The growth hormone stimulation test measures GH levels before and after insulin is introduced. Post insulin growth hormone levels should, under normal circumstances, be higher if not, the patient may have to be treated for a GH deficiency.

Science continues to develop new more accurate tests in order to diagnose illnesses associated with growth hormone abnormalities. Until one test can be developed that can give us all the answers, scientists and physicians continue to employ multiple methods to ensure accuracy

[boxin23]

bump for ya.....food for thought above ^^^^^^ and i dont know you so that is why i said 100 posts......just trying to help and really no one has to give you a source check for any reason.....some just offer....

the above information should help you talk with your family friend doctor.....

[SlimmerMe]

you mean get my levels tested to see how effective it is?? what exactly would I ask for when I go to the doctor.. I have a doc who is a family friendt hat would gladly write me scripts to get bloodwork, I just don't know what exactly to ask for

IGF-1 is the blood test you do to test HGH.....pin and then go get the BW test asap.. is what I hear to do to check levels
You can also test your HGH to rule out if actually HCG ,with a pregnancy kit
PM's: need 100 post ( sometimes quality post) to ask for a source check with a willing vet

My question is this: Have you done enough research on this?..not knowing what BW to take makes me wonder..
I hope you are fine with your age since taking HGH too early can really effect your endocrine system and mess with your natural growth pulse.....

[boxin23]

IGF-1 is the blood test you do to test HGH
You can also test your HGH to rule out if actually HCG ,with a pregnancy kit
PM's: need 100 post ( sometimes quality post) to ask for a source check with a willing vet

My question is this: Have you done enough research on this?

NO....he hasn't and i just gave him almost everything he will need to know about HGH testing above....i think that the OP is trying to use HGH as a bulker along side his cycle....which many do....BUT, i am trying to tell him it is very slow and it is not majical in the bulking area...OH YEAH except for the fact it is the only compound which will actually add new muscle cells to your body!

[jonnyp22]

I am taking it in conjunction with my cycle.. i've researched and 25 is a fine age to start.. I just didnt know if I wanted to go get the bloodwork and have to tell my family friend doctor..

[dec11]

IGF-1 is the blood test you do to test HGH.....pin and then go get the BW test asap.. is what I hear to do to check levels
You can also test your HGH to rule out if actually HCG ,with a pregnancy kit
PM's: need 100 post ( sometimes quality post) to ask for a source check with a willing vet

My question is this: Have you done enough research on this?..not knowing what BW to take makes me wonder..
I hope you are fine with your age since taking HGH too early can really effect your endocrine system and mess with your natural growth pulse.....

i think its only 25 posts for pm's, unless theyve changed it. 100 posts is for source checking with willing vets

[jonnyp22]

It gives me the option to PM, but doesnt work for some people..

[Bonaparte]

Here's your answer: the second one you mentioned is NOT HGH. It is a fragment of HGH that is only designed to promote the fat-loss effects of GH, but not the rest. It is a research peptide and is only worth about 25 bucks.

[EatingMyWheaties]

its only 20 posts to pm.

[DCannon]

Here's your answer: the second one you mentioned is NOT HGH. It is a fragment of HGH that is only designed to promote the fat-loss effects of GH, but not the rest. It is a research peptide and is only worth about 25 bucks.

I was just reading through all the post and wondering why no one told him that yet.

[jonnyp22]

Here's your answer: the second one you mentioned is NOT HGH. It is a fragment of HGH that is only designed to promote the fat-loss effects of GH, but not the rest. It is a research peptide and is only worth about 25 bucks.

thanks man.. i appreciate an answer haha i wasnt about to try to post 100 times in the next couple hours to find out!

so pretty much the second one is useless unless you are trying to burn fat?? cough ip cough and will not promote muscle growth?

[jonnyp22]

i have very little body fat and am presuming that this will be useless?? it was free if that helps.. haha is it still useless??

[SlimmerMe]

i think its only 25 posts for pm's, unless theyve changed it. 100 posts is for source checking with willing vets

100 post needed for PM's for source check is what I was saying...with a willing vet...

[SlimmerMe]

25?..wish you would wait a few more years

[jonnyp22]

i have very little body fat and am presuming that this will be useless?? it was free if that helps.. haha is it still useless??

any knowledge?

[Bonaparte]

i have very little body fat and am presuming that this will be useless?? it was free if that helps.. haha is it still useless??

It may help burn a bit if fat, but it isn't a very popular peptide so I'm assuming it doesn't work too well.
But it is useless for everything else.