Has anyone heard of Supra Labs out of Canada?

[Maxima]

Thanks for the advice guy's, however I am not a big fan of test for my goals.

From my exprience test will cause water weight, give you a little more fat and you do not hold on to your gains like with winstrol.

I am looking to put a 1/4 inch on my arms so I have cold 18's, and gain five pounds (although I do expect more from my stack since I have been natural so long.) I have seen people get good results with 200mg a week of Deca so I figured the 300 would suit my goals, I am really trying to stay away from a lot of water retention and gyno. Also genetically I already have the occasional breakout, this is bad enough and I want to try and stay away from things that aramotize.

I really think the winstrol will give me my 1/4 inch and five pounds of quality muscle, I am just adding in the Deca as a supplement because of the missing androgenic properties of Winstrol, a little more size also wouldn't hurt too.

I am pretty happy with my size but of course want to be bigger, I think that a simple stack such as this should complete my goals for this cycle.

Thanks a lot for all the advice and please critique the above and keep adding, all advice is greatly appreciated.

[Money Boss Hustla]

Thanks for the advice guy's, however I am not a big fan of test for my goals.

From my exprience test will cause water weight, give you a little more fat and you do not hold on to your gains like with winstrol.

I am looking to put a 1/4 inch on my arms so I have cold 18's, and gain five pounds (although I do expect more from my stack since I have been natural so long.) I have seen people get good results with 200mg a week of Deca so I figured the 300 would suit my goals, I am really trying to stay away from a lot of water retention and gyno. Also genetically I already have the occasional breakout, this is bad enough and I want to try and stay away from things that aramotize.

I really think the winstrol will give me my 1/4 inch and five pounds of quality muscle, I am just adding in the Deca as a supplement because of the missing androgenic properties of Winstrol, a little more size also wouldn't hurt too.

I am pretty happy with my size but of course want to be bigger, I think that a simple stack such as this should complete my goals for this cycle.

Thanks a lot for all the advice and please critique the above and keep adding, all advice is greatly appreciated.

IMHO I think you could achieve your goals naturally. 5 pounds of lean muscle could be done with a proper diet and supplements.

If you're going to use AS then I would add test and some anti-e's to keep away the gyno and water retention. Deca without test is nasty on the dick bro.

[Maxima]

IMHO I think you could achieve your goals naturally. 5 pounds of lean muscle could be done with a proper diet and supplements.

If you're going to use AS then I would add test and some anti-e's to keep away the gyno and water retention. Deca without test is nasty on the dick bro.

Agree but that is really my main goal, and the fact that I have been clean so long tells me to go ahead and surpass it with gear. Is their nothing I can do with the Deca to overcome erectile disfunction? Does this happen to everyone?

I just really don't want to cascade down in size because of test, I only have access to clomid, would this be enough? This cycle as stated before is for a harder appearence to the quality muscle that I already have; test would not interfere with this?

[custom fit]

using the proper test like propinate will not give you the bloated look that you do not want.

Yes you will get Deca DICK, a friend is using deca w/ dbol and cant stand it.

If you use your anti-e's and do cardio, you have nothing to worry about. first and foremost, Deca will hold water, so if your goal is to hold little to no water weight from gear, then your using the wrong gear.

if your stuck on not using test, and based on your post, maybe you should thing about using Deca/winstrol/tren combo, if you want that lean look. just use a very low dosage of each, and i think you should be fine imo.

[Money Boss Hustla]

using the proper test like propinate will not give you the bloated look that you do not want.

Yes you will get Deca DICK, a friend is using deca w/ dbol and cant stand it.

If you use your anti-e's and do cardio, you have nothing to worry about. first and foremost, Deca will hold water, so if your goal is to hold little to no water weight from gear, then your using the wrong gear.

if your stuck on not using test, and based on your post, maybe you should thing about using Deca/winstrol/tren combo, if you want that lean look. just use a very low dosage of each, and i think you should be fine imo.

I'm going to have agree and disagree.

I like the idea of prop too. Little water retention and good gains. Many people use for cutting with fina and winny. I'm using prop to kick start my enanthate cycle then using it again for for my fina/winny cycle. Only problem with prop is the frequency of injections...ED or EOD.

I now disagree with using fina (tren) for your first cycle. I would wait until you had a few cycles under your belt before using fina. Some people may disagree but IMHO I think it's the safer way. Fina is powerful bro.