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    Your diet is still the key. Spend your money/time focusing on eating good. Yes eating some junk/dirty once in a while if fine but it also robs you of real energy, long term energy that real good, lean foods will provide and you may end up gaining fat instead of muscle. Learn to eat a meal ever 2 hours or less, eat snacks inbetween. Dont rely on weight gain drinks for food. One, no more than 2 a day is fine but dont use it to replace food/meals.

    Stop training the whole body 3x a week or ever other day. Try only 2 body parts a day or like what I found works best for me most of the time train 1 body part a day for a couple of months. Dont eat 1 hr before the gym. Have a protein drink as soon as possible after working out.

    Dont over do the vitamins or supplements. Keep things simple. Lots of eggs (6+) oat meal and ??? in the morning. Learn to love chicken/turkey and eat as much as possible ever day, Tuna, lean steak, nuts and of course dont forget the vegetables at least 2 servings a day. It still wont change over night but if you get yourself on a good diet you should see results in 60 days and start bulking. Best part is it will be all you and all keep-able.

    You have a normal metabolism because you are young, healthy and active you burn fat. Fat kids are usually inactive, play video games, dont run around playing games or chasing each other. It's rare the people have actual thyroid/fast/slow metabolism.

    Read up in our diet section if you need more advice but dont over think it yet. Just learn to eat more protein than you are burning. Dont over train. Stop the cardio for now or keep it to a minimum. I only do 10 minutes of elliptical to warm up unless I am trying to get lean/cut.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lovbyts View Post
    Your diet is still the key. Spend your money/time focusing on eating good. Yes eating some junk/dirty once in a while if fine but it also robs you of real energy, long term energy that real good, lean foods will provide and you may end up gaining fat instead of muscle. Learn to eat a meal ever 2 hours or less, eat snacks inbetween. Dont rely on weight gain drinks for food. One, no more than 2 a day is fine but dont use it to replace food/meals.

    Stop training the whole body 3x a week or ever other day. Try only 2 body parts a day or like what I found works best for me most of the time train 1 body part a day for a couple of months. Dont eat 1 hr before the gym. Have a protein drink as soon as possible after working out.

    Dont over do the vitamins or supplements. Keep things simple. Lots of eggs (6+) oat meal and ??? in the morning. Learn to love chicken/turkey and eat as much as possible ever day, Tuna, lean steak, nuts and of course dont forget the vegetables at least 2 servings a day. It still wont change over night but if you get yourself on a good diet you should see results in 60 days and start bulking. Best part is it will be all you and all keep-able.

    You have a normal metabolism because you are young, healthy and active you burn fat. Fat kids are usually inactive, play video games, dont run around playing games or chasing each other. It's rare the people have actual thyroid/fast/slow metabolism.

    Read up in our diet section if you need more advice but dont over think it yet. Just learn to eat more protein than you are burning. Dont over train. Stop the cardio for now or keep it to a minimum. I only do 10 minutes of elliptical to warm up unless I am trying to get lean/cut.
    he really shouldn't rely on clean food. All it will do is promote health. He is young enough where he is probably healthy. His focus should be on reaching his caloric expenditure, no matter what foods it takes. If he needs to eat mcdonalds twice a day to gain muscle, so be it. There is no difference in the quality of muscle gained between a big mac and chicken w/ rice

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    Quote Originally Posted by AlphaMaleDawg View Post
    he really shouldn't rely on clean food. All it will do is promote health. He is young enough where he is probably healthy. His focus should be on reaching his caloric expenditure, no matter what foods it takes. If he needs to eat mcdonalds twice a day to gain muscle, so be it. There is no difference in the quality of muscle gained between a big mac and chicken w/ rice
    No but there is a difference on how your body feels and the energy you get from it. When I eat crappy I feel crappy. Junk in, junk out. Eat healthy, good clean protein you get better bang for the buck and last longer. Just like if you rely on sugar for energy you burn out quickly. Why eat stuff that could make you feel worse?

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    Quote Originally Posted by lovbyts View Post
    No but there is a difference on how your body feels and the energy you get from it. When I eat crappy I feel crappy. Junk in, junk out. Eat healthy, good clean protein you get better bang for the buck and last longer. Just like if you rely on sugar for energy you burn out quickly. Why eat stuff that could make you feel worse?
    this is pretty much bro-science for the most part. That or you are overrating this element. The energy difference is minimal at best, at least in my experience. It could be an age thing too. His main concern should be calories though. The energy will be there for an 18 year old. Just my opinion

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    Quote Originally Posted by AlphaMaleDawg View Post
    he really shouldn't rely on clean food. All it will do is promote health. He is young enough where he is probably healthy. His focus should be on reaching his caloric expenditure, no matter what foods it takes. If he needs to eat mcdonalds twice a day to gain muscle, so be it. There is no difference in the quality of muscle gained between a big mac and chicken w/ rice
    What dirty foods would you recommend for putting on weight?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thepointguard View Post
    What dirty foods would you recommend for putting on weight?
    PASTA & NOODLES.
    I can eat a hell of alot more of that than freakin rice and oats everyday.
    IMO- I would cut down the protien and add carbs. I say this due to you not being able to eat enough to fill both sources. Cut down to 150 to 175 grams protien total for the day. Then Eat carbs until your full. Mix them up to keep it fresh and you wanting to eat them, fires, potatoes, pasta, noodles, rice if you like, oats. Aim for 2-3 grams of quality carbs (complex) per body pound for the day. That would be about 450 grams total for the day and about 75 per meal for 6 meals. That is ruffly one cup dry rice 6 times a day. If you cant do it all at once, move into it slowly. Try to space the meals every 3 hours. Cut out the fruit and anything that is not calorie heavy. No need for wasted space. When I was a hard gainer, i wouldn't ever eat a salad. LOL

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    Hey man, i had the same problem in high school, no matter how much good food i ate i wouldnt grow until i started packing 5000 calories into me, and those calories didnt include the 1k calories from protein. I started pounding in wendys burger king mcdonalds, ICE CREAM SHAKES, i would drink olive oil. It sucks for us hard gainers man, but we have a gift (we cut EASY!)

    Lift heavy, eat like a horse, and i promise you will gain size.

    The metabolism will slow down after high school. I guarantee it lol.

  8. #8
    Quote Originally Posted by lovbyts View Post
    Your diet is still the key. Spend your money/time focusing on eating good. Yes eating some junk/dirty once in a while if fine but it also robs you of real energy, long term energy that real good, lean foods will provide and you may end up gaining fat instead of muscle. Learn to eat a meal ever 2 hours or less, eat snacks inbetween. Dont rely on weight gain drinks for food. One, no more than 2 a day is fine but dont use it to replace food/meals.

    Stop training the whole body 3x a week or ever other day. Try only 2 body parts a day or like what I found works best for me most of the time train 1 body part a day for a couple of months. Dont eat 1 hr before the gym. Have a protein drink as soon as possible after working out.

    Dont over do the vitamins or supplements. Keep things simple. Lots of eggs (6+) oat meal and ??? in the morning. Learn to love chicken/turkey and eat as much as possible ever day, Tuna, lean steak, nuts and of course dont forget the vegetables at least 2 servings a day. It still wont change over night but if you get yourself on a good diet you should see results in 60 days and start bulking. Best part is it will be all you and all keep-able.

    You have a normal metabolism because you are young, healthy and active you burn fat. Fat kids are usually inactive, play video games, dont run around playing games or chasing each other. It's rare the people have actual thyroid/fast/slow metabolism.

    Read up in our diet section if you need more advice but dont over think it yet. Just learn to eat more protein than you are burning. Dont over train. Stop the cardio for now or keep it to a minimum. I only do 10 minutes of elliptical to warm up unless I am trying to get lean/cut.
    I'm going to try just lifting two body parts each day, what type of rep scheme am I looking at?

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