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    Quote Originally Posted by a_bower View Post
    Understood...
    Ive only studied AAS for a year or so, but i can tell you most the vetarans on here will tell you the same thing. I still think its a good idea to wait till your in your mid 20's. You got a long way to go man! no doubt you will have at least another 2 growth spurts before 25 and You will surely regret it if you start to get problems with hormones and test levels due to your early anabolic use.
    Its frowned upon to give advice to under-agerz.. but i will just throw some light education in:
    Bulk first, cut later. If you choose to run a cycle keep it as simple as you can 1st time around. I would choose to run only one compound being either test enanthate or cyp for a first cycle and keep it to 10 weeks. maintaining a clean diet should see your BF stayin low + the use of Adex or another AI.
    If you Stack too many AAS together 1st time around it can bring on side effects faster and more serious. Potentially 1 compound out of your stack may be causing the greater side effects but it may be hard to figure out which one.
    have patience, start with the basics and grow into your cycles.
    Thanks, the thing is i already bulked to 210 pounds 11% i dont really get more bodyfat than that even if i tried i really stay lean year around lol. Problem was to do a cut cycle to 7-8% while maintaining all the muscle and gaining some on certain areas staying on the 205-210 pounds range. I thought of testosterone as the bulking/maintaining muscle agent and winstrol and clenbuterol and cutting agent. Really i first thought of just testosterone and clenbuterol and i might fallow your advice on this one even if i think that finishing the cycle with a couple weeks of winstrol couldnt really hurt that much.

    Yes as you stated above messing up my hormones is my greatest fear right now. But i am in a circle of people where most of them have cycled earlier that this, hell most of the people you see on this forums cycle earlier, and nothing happened so maybe my decission is being affected by this aswell.

    About the type of testosterone i think it would do much difference harm wise really. I choose prop because it seems the best for me really and i dont have a problem pinning EOD which is the main problem it seems for people with their first cycle i believe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by spanish_aesthetics View Post
    Thanks, the thing is i already bulked to 210 pounds 11% i dont really get more bodyfat than that even if i tried i really stay lean year around lol. Problem was to do a cut cycle to 7-8% while maintaining all the muscle and gaining some on certain areas staying on the 205-210 pounds range. I thought of testosterone as the bulking/maintaining muscle agent and winstrol and clenbuterol and cutting agent. Really i first thought of just testosterone and clenbuterol and i might fallow your advice on this one even if i think that finishing the cycle with a couple weeks of winstrol couldnt really hurt that much.
    No probs. It probably wouldn't hurt but at your age i wouldn't take the risk. If you are 100% about it and wont be convinced otherwise, I would still just use test first time round to work on the areas that you need to build. Then after the cycle try to maintain your muscle with a solid diet and PCT. Then you could potentially run clen the next time around. You will drop alot of your water at the end of your cycle giving you a much more cut appearence.
    In short: i wouldn't try to achieve both cutting and bulking in 1 cycle - being it your first time around.

    Quote Originally Posted by spanish_aesthetics View Post
    Yes as you stated above messing up my hormones is my greatest fear right now. But i am in a circle of people where most of them have cycled earlier that this, hell most of the people you see on this forums cycle earlier, and nothing happened so maybe my decission is being affected by this aswell.
    Alot of them regret it also.

    Quote Originally Posted by spanish_aesthetics View Post
    About the type of testosterone i think it would do much difference harm wise really. I choose prop because it seems the best for me really and i dont have a problem pinning EOD which is the main problem it seems for people with their first cycle i believe.
    No probs, If you have no worries pinning every other day, thats true for alot of begginers it can be daunting shooting EOD. Once again my advice was taken from many articles and post over more than a years reading and I found that E and C were the most popular for first timers. Either way you sound like you have a fair idea about what your doing man and in the end its up to you.

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