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    Quote Originally Posted by Bonaparte View Post
    Again, in vitro studies are only meant to lay the groundwork for more conclusive in vivo studies. They usually mean **** all on their own, since your brain isn't just a lump of defenseless nerve cells on a petri dish.

    Just look up some nootropics and take your pic. They're all about as proven to work as your studies.
    I agree in vitro studies aren't the most conclusive ones. But let's look at these:

    Physiol. Behav. 1993; 53: 583
    The matched analysis further substantiated the association between testosterone secretion and learning disabilities.
    Look, I agree there aren't many conclusive studies on this, but so far there is definitely a relevancy between higher testosterone and negative impact on neural tissue. So I just want to be safe in case this is true.

    With regards to nootropics, I was talking about racetams. There's hundreds of studies done on these, 2/3 of these are on piracetam. Id definetely works, also towards protecting the brain from chemical "assault" such as that type of chemicals that stimulate the NMDA receptor causing apoptosis.

    Not all nootropics are herbal bullshit, believe it or not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by iCookie View Post
    I agree in vitro studies aren't the most conclusive ones. But let's look at these:

    Physiol. Behav. 1993; 53: 583


    Look, I agree there aren't many conclusive studies on this, but so far there is definitely a relevancy between higher testosterone and negative impact on neural tissue. So I just want to be safe in case this is true.

    With regards to nootropics, I was talking about racetams. There's hundreds of studies done on these, 2/3 of these are on piracetam. Id definetely works, also towards protecting the brain from chemical "assault" such as that type of chemicals that stimulate the NMDA receptor causing apoptosis.

    Not all nootropics are herbal bullshit, believe it or not.
    I'm well aware of that second quote, since I explained it in my original post.
    Nootropics are fun (I played with some 2 years ago). And they aren't herbs, they're synthetic chemicals

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bonaparte View Post
    I'm well aware of that second quote, since I explained it in my original post.
    Nootropics are fun (I played with some 2 years ago). And they aren't herbs, they're synthetic chemicals
    Some of them are synthetic yes, but not all of them. Nootropics can be natural herbs too.

    Also the study I quoted found a correlation between a childs salivary testosterone and learning abilities, not womb testosterone exposure and learning abilites. Although I'm sure there's a study like that around too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bonaparte View Post
    I'm well aware of that second quote, since I explained it in my original post.
    Nootropics are fun (I played with some 2 years ago). And they aren't herbs, they're synthetic chemicals
    Which ones? I tried piracetam for six months and didn't really notice anything. And what I did notice I chalked up to placebo, since I was looking for an effect, I'm thinking the effect found me, very mild as it was.

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    For piracetam to work as a cognitive enchanter, there are many things that need to go together as a whole. Low serotonin and aldosterone can influence it's efficiency. High cortisol can affect it. Lack of choline can influence it etc....

    I think it's better used as a tool to protect your brain from aging related damage or other damage, rather than a cognitive enchanter. But that's just me...

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    Quote Originally Posted by iCookie View Post
    For piracetam to work as a cognitive enchanter, there are many things that need to go together as a whole. Low serotonin and aldosterone can influence it's efficiency. High cortisol can affect it. Lack of choline can influence it etc....

    I think it's better used as a tool to protect your brain from aging related damage or other damage, rather than a cognitive enchanter. But that's just me...
    to protect the brain, I've been using deprynl. google it if you haven't heard. Life extenders swear by it

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    Quote Originally Posted by Times Roman View Post
    Which ones? I tried piracetam for six months and didn't really notice anything. And what I did notice I chalked up to placebo, since I was looking for an effect, I'm thinking the effect found me, very mild as it was.
    Piracetam is boring. I never got around to trying the more intense racetams.
    I mostly like PEA, which has psychoactive stimulant properties in some (it boosts mood and energy). Some respond really well to it, others don't feel shit. It's very hit or miss, but it gave me wings even after a tough training session

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bonaparte View Post
    Piracetam is boring. I never got around to trying the more intense racetams.
    I mostly like PEA, which has psychoactive stimulant properties in some (it boosts mood and energy). Some respond really well to it, others don't feel shit. It's very hit or miss, but it gave me wings even after a tough training session
    oh sh1t, you know about PEA??? Several years ago, I did a real stupid thing. I injested a small amount nasally, and almost blasted off to the moon. Very very intense. I didn't know it was classified as a nootropic, though.

    BTW... for those of you who are thnking wtf???? PEA is the active psychotropic chemical in, you got it, CHOCOLATE!

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