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    Quote Originally Posted by Bonaparte View Post
    Hold on!
    Using Finasteride with nandrolone will have the opposite effect you're looking for (it will make the NPP much more androgenic and harsh on your hair and prostate). This is because nandrolone itself is pretty androgenic, though most of it converts to dihydronandrolone (especially in the skin and prostate), which is much less androgenic.
    Therefore you cannot use nandrolone alongside a 5a-R inhibitor if your goal for using the nandrolone is to avoid androgenic sides.
    I thought that was a myth. I got conflicting results when I did researched about it. Here is an example.

    http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...mbo-4-hairloss

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    Quote Originally Posted by pwnflow View Post
    I thought that was a myth. I got conflicting results when I did researched about it. Here is an example.

    http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...mbo-4-hairloss
    Did you actually read that thread?
    It is 4 years old, and the only vet to post in it stated that it WOULD, in fact, keep the nandrolone in its more androgenic form. The other opinions were just a handful of guys who said "I did it and didn't lose too much hair", but did not even specify whether they were prone to hairloss anyway (nor did anyone mention what doses of which compounds they were using). Sure, personal experiences will vary, but there is a very valid scientific reason why using nandrolone with a 5a-R blocker will drastically increase nandrolone's androgenic effects.
    If you're worried about your hair but still want to use nandrolone, drop the finasteride and just lower the dose of test. You can also add in a topical product.
    Either that or keep using the Finasteride with a good dose of test, but just avoid Nandrolone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bonaparte View Post
    Did you actually read that thread?
    It is 4 years old, and the only vet to post in it stated that it WOULD, in fact, keep the nandrolone in its more androgenic form. The other opinions were just a handful of guys who said "I did it and didn't lose too much hair", but did not even specify whether they were prone to hairloss anyway (nor did anyone mention what doses of which compounds they were using). Sure, personal experiences will vary, but there is a very valid scientific reason why using nandrolone with a 5a-R blocker will drastically increase nandrolone's androgenic effects.
    If you're worried about your hair but still want to use nandrolone, drop the finasteride and just lower the dose of test. You can also add in a topical product.
    Either that or keep using the Finasteride with a good dose of test, but just avoid Nandrolone.
    Interesting. I have been on Finasteride for 3 years for MPB so I'm not gonna risk hair loss by stopping it. I might have to replace NPP with primo or eq. Thanks for the heads up.

    Btw how exactly would increasing deca's androgenic effects lead to hair loss? I was under the assumption that dht is the culprit when it come to hair loss, which propecia keeps under check.
    Last edited by pwnflow; 12-13-2010 at 12:59 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pwnflow View Post
    Interesting. I have been on Finasteride for 3 years for MPB so I'm not gonna risk hair loss by stopping it. I might have to replace NPP with primo or eq. Thanks for the heads up.

    Btw how exactly would increasing deca's androgenic effects lead to hair loss? I was under the assumption that dht is the culprit when it come to hair loss, which propecia keeps under check.
    Because it doesn't convert to DHT. It converts to DHN, which is LESS androgenic. So if you keep it in its original form, you are using a more potent androgen than most users.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bonaparte View Post
    Because it doesn't convert to DHT. It converts to DHN, which is LESS androgenic. So if you keep it in its original form, you are using a more potent androgen than most users.
    Damn frustrating to know I won't be able to use deca as I looking forward to a great bulk cycle over the winter. Will have to resort to eq and go with slow gains. /end rant.

    Thanks anyways.

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