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    ATP, and Inzer is what I use as wrist wraps.

    As far as straps are concerned, they are essential! Every world record breaking powerlifter (Bolton, Felix, KK, Magnusson, Savickas the 4 heaviest deadlifters in the world) all use them in training. The reason being is the muscles in the hands/forearms are taxed much faster than the other muscles used to pull the deadlift. NOthing better to overload than using straps.

    You don't want to limit your deadlift potential because of your limited grip strength.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BgMc31 View Post
    ATP, and Inzer is what I use as wrist wraps.

    As far as straps are concerned, they are essential! Every world record breaking powerlifter (Bolton, Felix, KK, Magnusson, Savickas the 4 heaviest deadlifters in the world) all use them in training. The reason being is the muscles in the hands/forearms are taxed much faster than the other muscles used to pull the deadlift. NOthing better to overload than using straps.

    You don't want to limit your deadlift potential because of your limited grip strength.
    bullshit, they only cheat your grip and not every organisation allows them, sorry mate but this is just plain bad advice

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    Quote Originally Posted by dec11 View Post
    bullshit, they only cheat your grip and not every organisation allows them, sorry mate but this is just plain bad advice
    I doesn't cheat your grip. And if you read my post I said these guys TRAIN with straps. There are no powerlifting feds that allow straps. I also train with straps and have pulled close to eight hundred...without straps. I've also taken 360lb farmer's walk for 50ft with no drops. Grip isn't an issue.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BgMc31 View Post
    I doesn't cheat your grip. And if you read my post I said these guys TRAIN with straps. There are no powerlifting feds that allow straps. I also train with straps and have pulled close to eight hundred...without straps. I've also taken 360lb farmer's walk for 50ft with no drops. Grip isn't an issue.
    of course it cheats grip, thats what its for, to aid holding onto a bar. 800 is a big number, what weight are you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dec11 View Post
    of course it cheats grip, thats what its for, to aid holding onto a bar. 800 is a big number, what weight are you?
    If it cheats grip then why do the worlds best deadlifters use them. I've seen most of those deadlifters, including Ed Coan compete in person. Doing singles is different than pulling for reps. The muscles in the hand will tax much faster than the other larger muscles that assist in deadlifting.

    I hear this argument all the time. But it seems to me the one's who rail against using straps are, 1. not powerlifters or strength athletes or 2. not very strong deadlifters (usually around 600 regardless of weight). Not knocking you Dec. Your 595 deadlift at 200lbs is pretty good. But far from mind blowing. You are probably capable of much more, but you never give your larger muscles the work because you're limiting you strength to grip. Ed Coan pulled 900 at 220. He trains with straps. So I revert back to my original question...if using straps limits your deadlift potential, then why do the worlds best deadlifters use them. Even the worlds best olympic lifters use straps in training. They just don't use them on max effort singles (most of the time).

    I pulled seven hundred and eighty pounds at 270lbs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BgMc31 View Post
    If it cheats grip then why do the worlds best deadlifters use them. I've seen most of those deadlifters, including Ed Coan compete in person. Doing singles is different than pulling for reps. The muscles in the hand will tax much faster than the other larger muscles that assist in deadlifting.

    I hear this argument all the time. But it seems to me the one's who rail against using straps are, 1. not powerlifters or strength athletes or 2. not very strong deadlifters (usually around 600 regardless of weight). Not knocking you Dec. Your 595 deadlift at 200lbs is pretty good. But far from mind blowing. You are probably capable of much more, but you never give your larger muscles the work because you're limiting you strength to grip. Ed Coan pulled 900 at 220. He trains with straps. So I revert back to my original question...if using straps limits your deadlift potential, then why do the worlds best deadlifters use them. Even the worlds best olympic lifters use straps in training. They just don't use them on max effort singles (most of the time).

    I pulled seven hundred and eighty pounds at 270lbs.
    i'll just add that was a natty 270kg, didnt use aas till late on in life after i finished comps. my limbs didnt place me in the 'ideal' plifter build catagory either and i know when my body was peaked and giving its all. straps wouldnt have made one bit of diff to me, if its not moving after 2" from the floor, straps arent gona move it. see what i mean? not trying to argue but if a lifter never used them, he'd never need them. one of my ex training partners used straps and could usually top my 1rep max by 10kgs or so without them, but on repping 200kg i was pulling 10reps where as his grip was shot at 7reps

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    Quote Originally Posted by dec11 View Post
    i'll just add that was a natty 270kg, didnt use aas till late on in life after i finished comps. my limbs didnt place me in the 'ideal' plifter build catagory either and i know when my body was peaked and giving its all. straps wouldnt have made one bit of diff to me, if its not moving after 2" from the floor, straps arent gona move it. see what i mean? not trying to argue but if a lifter never used them, he'd never need them. one of my ex training partners used straps and could usually top my 1rep max by 10kgs or so without them, but on repping 200kg i was pulling 10reps where as his grip was shot at 7reps
    I have pulled 650 without drugs, use straps, and can stand thier with 650 in my hands for 30 seconds. If you don't think you are an "ideal" lifter, the first time i tried to deadlift i was 23 and could not do 300 lbs. I still don't see your point, they have their place like everything else. Your grip has nothing to do with a deadlift if you pull hook grip. Why are you talking about reps, this is powerlifting, the first one is the only one that counts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BgMc31 View Post
    ATP, and Inzer is what I use as wrist wraps.

    As far as straps are concerned, they are essential! Every world record breaking powerlifter (Bolton, Felix, KK, Magnusson, Savickas the 4 heaviest deadlifters in the world) all use them in training. The reason being is the muscles in the hands/forearms are taxed much faster than the other muscles used to pull the deadlift. NOthing better to overload than using straps.

    You don't want to limit your deadlift potential because of your limited grip strength.
    Got to agree with this.^

    I don't like an under/over grip, so with on heavy sets I have no choice. Might not be the case for Dec.....I guess he doesn't pull much weight

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    Quote Originally Posted by terraj View Post
    Got to agree with this.^

    I don't like an under/over grip, so with on heavy sets I have no choice. Might not be the case for Dec.....I guess he doesn't pull much weight
    we werent allowed em under BAWLA ruling, and even if we were my coach said 'not in his gym' lol. hehe smarty, pulled 270kg pb @ 90kg when i was still competing, was an accomplishment to me anyhow! and ive developed a grip like steel

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    Quote Originally Posted by dec11 View Post
    we werent allowed em under BAWLA ruling, and even if we were my coach said 'not in his gym' lol. hehe smarty, pulled 270kg pb @ 90kg when i was still competing, was an accomplishment to me anyhow! and ive developed a grip like steel
    Is that with an under/over grip? That grip scares me, I've had Bi injuires...

    Great pull BTW!! 3xBW is the shit

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    Quote Originally Posted by terraj View Post
    Is that with an under/over grip? That grip scares me, I've had Bi injuires...

    Great pull BTW!! 3xBW is the shit
    yeah, over and under

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