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Thread: please help - female training on winny/var or clen, please advise!

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    Question please help - female training on winny/var or clen, please advise!

    Hey all!

    I originally posted in the Diet forum, but as I realized my questions became more cycle-oriented I moved here.

    The original post is here: http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...ease-critique!

    Quick and dirty: Hey all,

    I've been reading through the forums for some time now and am really impressed by the support and advice you all give to each other - it is amazing, what a community! I have had some concerns with my current training and diet (and cycle), so I hope you guys wouldn't mind giving me your .02.

    So, I'll start with stats:

    Height: 5'6
    Weight: 151lbs
    BF%: approx 20-21%% (at my gym they used the BF reader that gets pressed into the arm, not the skin pinch tool, so the number may be different)
    Goal: 135-140lbs

    Background: I had been working hard to lose weight (pudgy kid, preferred books to sports, that whole bit) with some success, but then after a stint in Africa doing development work as an adult, I came back with way more winter insulation than I'd prefer. After starting back at the gym and eating healthier to get things rolling, I started serious training with my good friend (who, like with 11way from the 'I want to do a bikini show' thread, is a skilled amateur bb but also has a life, etc.) and after about 6 months of hard training, I dropped 2 pant sizes and lost about 11lbs - I have a stocky build and gained a lot of strength in the process. My trainer friend suggested I try gear to burn the rest of it off. So, we decided to run winny for 8 weeks (Nov-Dec 2010). I'll give the details below. He has experience using in the past and this was a whole new world to me, so I trusted him 100% - he gave me the diet and training too.

    Winny cycle details:
    1 millie every other day, taken in the morning before cardio. it was less frequent but then was upped to every other day

    Diet: extremely low carb, wasn't a good diet (was recommended to me and I went on it on faith...it has since been rectified thanks to the folks on the boards!)

    Just yesterday I spoke with my trainer friend and he suggested I wait until I get my period (I skipped mine on winny), then once that's done I take a 5 week cycle of var, to burn the last bit off and get down to 140lbs. I'll go 2x/day to train again no problem, I am committed, but my fear is that maintaining that low carb diet will have the pounds jump back on me once I'm done the cycle! And with the morning commute pre-cardio, my carb sensitivity and coming off winny and then onto anavar in a few weeks, I think it's time for some new opinons. I love my trainer dearly, he is all kinds of awesome, but I need some help.

    I have var in my possession, but I have been reading that clen in fact might be a better choice..I loved winny and felt like i could pull a bus on it, but if there is a better choice for cutting (right now, my preference is cutting; I am able to put muscle on quite quickly but bulking/hardening not my main focus atm, other than strength, health, and looking small and tight ;p). Do you feel clen would be the best choice? Trainer suggested the winny and then var, what do you guys say?

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    Lets keep this in the diet section

    You can hang onto ur gear for now

    You need to make some progress before you are ready to run it

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    right on, man, thanks

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