new member looking for cycle advice

[karlos]

stats : age 25
height 6ft
BF 12%
5yrs training(started current job about the same time)
weight 205 lbs(previously 180lbs)
goal weight is about 15 - 20 lbs lean muscle while keeping bf from peaking above 15%

well basically lads i have being at a big plateu with regards to strenght and weight the last 2 months or so and i just cant get through it. it took while to get my diet and training in check before i started noticing gains an i have gotten this far from my diet and proper training.. i have bein doing alot of homework about my first cycle and im just going to put two cycles out there to see what you lads think,


first - 250mg test e x2/week for 12 weeks

OR

second - 250mg test e x2 /week and 400mg of EQ for 14 weeks total

AI - adex @ .5 mg eod from start to last shot and adjust to keep bloat down

pct - clomid blast 200mg first 2 days then 100 100 75 50

hcg will also be taken @ 250iu x 2 /week from week 2 until week 14

what you lads think would be better for my goal?

[axemurderer187]

First option IMO, keep it simple for your first time but you should still have your PCT regardless whatever you take.

[karlos]

yeah i was thinking about that at the start when i started doing the homework on it but what type of gains would i be gettin as in i want lean muscle, ill accept some bloat an that but not too much ??

[D7M]

Go with the first cycle.

Could probably start the adex at .25 EOD, though I prefer Aromasin as an AI.

Run the HCG during your cycle, not in PCT.

No need to run initially high doses of clomid. I would just do:
clomid 50/50/25/25
nolva 40/40/20/20

[Flacco]

Cycle #1 for sure. Get a feeling of what Test can do on its own. You'll be amazed at what Test Can do by itself.

[karlos]

ok so ill go with the first cycle, you guys reckon that test e alone will help build lean muscle ? my diet is in check also. dont want to get to fat first time you know.

also should i take nolva as a pct aswel or keep it on hand incase of gyno issues??

[cro]

aromasin will always be my #1 choice .

Go with the first cycle.

Could probably start the adex at .25 EOD, though I prefer Aromasin as an AI.

Run the HCG during your cycle, not in PCT.

No need to run initially high doses of clomid. I would just do:
clomid 50/50/25/25
nolva 40/40/20/20

[D7M]

ok so ill go with the first cycle, you guys reckon that test e alone will help build lean muscle ? my diet is in check also. dont want to get to fat first time you know.

also should i take nolva as a pct aswel or keep it on hand incase of gyno issues??

Yes, you'll grow nicely off test only if everything else is in order.

See post 4 regarding your PCT question.

[karlos]

yeah evrythin else im pretty sure of is in order .. im going to run hcg from week 2 until last shot then cut that out. pct should start about 2 weeks after last shot right??

thanks again lads