Vote, Iwould like to get a vote on how many ppl think this was or was not a demo

[zabster151]

[zabster151]

Explain to me why a building can not fall at free fall speed?
According to Newtons first Law of Motion:

Every body remains in a state of rest or uniform motion (constant velocity) unless it is acted upon by an external unbalanced force. This means that in the absence of a non-zero net force, the center of mass of a body either remains at rest, or moves at a constant speed in a straight line

Therefore if the structure was weak (due to structural damage to the supports due to fire) and failed, unless a part remained intact, a building would accelerate to the earth at 9.8 m/s^2 due to the force of gravity. That would be free fall. No other force would act upon it unless the supports remained intact.

smart guy enplane nano thermite

[zabster151]

common someone ex plane why there was nano thermite found

[SlimmerMe]

What is nano thermite?

[zabster151]

remember thermite is used in demolition, but nano thermite is incredibly hard to make

So what exactly is nanotechnology? One of the problems facing nanotechnology is the confusion about its definition. Most definitions revolve around the study and control of phenomena and materials at length scales below 100 nm and quite often they make a comparison with a human hair, which is about 80,000 nm wide. Some definitions include a reference to molecular systems and devices and nanotechnology 'purists' argue that any definition of nanotechnology needs to include a reference to "functional systems". The inaugural issue of Nature Nanotechnology asked 13 researchers from different areas what nanotechnology means to them and the responses, from enthusiastic to sceptical, reflect a variety of perspectives.


here is the wiki leaks info on it but the videos i have posted talk more on the exact typ of thermite used


Nano-thermite, also called "super-thermite",[1] is the common name for a subset of metastable intermolecular composites (MICs) characterized by a highly exothermic reaction after ignition. Nano-thermites contain an oxidizer and a reducing agent, which are intimately mixed on the nanometer scale. MICs, including nano-thermitic materials, are a type of reactive materials investigated for military use, as well as in applications in propellants, explosives, and pyrotechnics.

What separates MICs from traditional thermites is that the oxidizer and a reducing agent, normally iron oxide and aluminium are not a fine powder, but rather nanoparticles. This dramatically increases the reactivity relative to micrometre-sized powder thermite. As the mass transport mechanisms that slow down the burning rates of traditional thermites are not so important at these scales, the reactions become kinetically controlled and much faster.

Historically, pyrotechnic or explosive applications for traditional thermites have been limited due to their relatively slow energy release rates. But because nanothermites are created from reactant particles with proximities approaching the atomic scale, energy release rates are far improved.[2]

MICs or Super-thermites are generally developed for military use, propellants, explosives, and pyrotechnics. Because of their highly increased reaction rate, nanosized thermitic materials are being researched by the U.S. military with the aim of developing new types of bombs that are several times more powerful than conventional explosives.[3] Nanoenergetic materials can store higher amounts of energy than conventional energetic materials and can be used in ********** ways to tailor the release of this energy. Thermobaric weapons are considered to be a promising application of nanoenergetic materials. Research into military applications of nano-sized materials began in the early 1990s.[4]

[Ernst]

I'm curious about something. Let's pretend that we totally buy what you say. What would you have us do about it?

Flood bodybuilding boards with this stuff? Assassinate politicians? Vote for an Independent candidate? Refuse to pay taxes?

[SlimmerMe]

thanks Zabster ......and I would be curious as well as to what would you do to correct all of this? What is the solution?

[zabster151]

I want everyone to know the truth, yes we do need to step up to the banking cartel in every country prosocute them to the fullest, yes we need to prosocute the whole bush administartion everyone who lied in nist anyone who profited from this and lots more people as the reinvestigation goes through the court system wikileaks has helpd allot with gathering major information convicting people of what happend that day and for the last 60 years showing the lies,

there has been 109,000+ civilian killed since 2006 in the iraq,iran pakistan war
we need to pull all of are troops from any country we are occupying illegally and lots more
ok so this is what i am getting at with the Nano thermite not regular thermite

Nano Thermite is like the bullet being found at the crime scene, meaning you know how bullets can be linked to the gun due to the riffling or even by serial # now a days, Nano Thermite is only produced by the US military. so if you find Nano Thermite at a crime scene like they did in WT7 and the twin towers, that only means one person could have put it there the only people on the planet who have it the US militery.
so the military is the gun and Nano thermite is the bullet.

[SlimmerMe]

keep telliing....what is the lots more.....I am serious.....and curious....thanks!

[JJ78]

No doubt in my mind it was a controlled demo

As were the twin towers.
Jet fuel aint gonna melt steel. Cannot happen. And look at how those buildings fell. just like a controlled demo.

I got your back Zab. We see things in the same light. Dont worry brother most sheep dont want to know. It would make their life too difficult and they would need some more of those legal drugs just to cope with reality.

Ignorance is bliss.

[JJ78]

They also found some of the terroists passports? Bullshit out of all of that mess they found some of their passports. Come on people.

[zabster151]

yea i know there were no dead bodies and no black boxes, but there were pass ports to every terrorist what a joke

right on jj78

[Noles12]

I want to continue in this debate but as i said earlier it isnt worth it when one side tries to bully their point across to prove it. You will not get very far with your attitude towards others when they do not agree with your opinion. And as someone else said, do you think that changing the opinions of a few members here will cause this idea to become accepted nationally? Until you realize that forcing people to believe you here will not change the world, and that an intelligent non-ranting and bashing conversation will get you much farther, then you will never accomplish anything.

I still have not been convinced by your theory but that is fine because im not trying to persuade you. I could care less if i changed your thoughts. If you want to have intelligent conversation then you need to rethink your way of going about it. From that alone im done with this thread

[Ernst]

We can certainly agree that the government, then and now, is full of despicable crooked bastards selling us out. Unfortunately not nearly enough people bother to even question authority, and far fewer would consider challenging it even in a peaceful and/or legal way. Don't know what else to say about that.

[zabster151]

I want to continue in this debate but as i said earlier it isnt worth it when one side tries to bully their point across to prove it. You will not get very far with your attitude towards others when they do not agree with your opinion. And as someone else said, do you think that changing the opinions of a few members here will cause this idea to become accepted nationally? Until you realize that forcing people to believe you here will not change the world, and that an intelligent non-ranting and bashing conversation will get you much farther, then you will never accomplish anything.

I still have not been convinced by your theory but that is fine because im not trying to persuade you. I could care less if i changed your thoughts. If you want to have intelligent conversation then you need to rethink your way of going about it. From that alone im done with this thread

im stiking to the topic, your attacking me now, i am putting solid information on about nano thermite and you run from it, because you cannot explane whya militaey exsplosive compund was there.

[Noles12]

im stiking to the topic, your attacking me now, i am putting solid information on about nano thermite and you run from it, because you cannot explane whya militaey exsplosive compund was there.

I didnt attack you nor did i run from anything. I chose to take myself out of this debate because it is more bashing each others ideas rather than conversation.

The components of thermite mean nothing to me either. It is composed of many materials found in common parts of buildings. Therefore finding these together cause these conspiracy to say it was a connection. Here is a video explaining it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OWpC_...embedded#at=33

[BgMc31]

Noles12...bow out gracefully brotha. He won't relent (nor should he). He's not open to any other ideas except his own. And resorting to name calling and attacking people is his idea of getting people to see his point of view. I admire his dogmatic determination, but this isn't a debate. A debate is being able to present both sides without fear of attack. So let him to his conspiracy theory. There is no changing his mind.

[zabster151]

I didnt attack you nor did i run from anything. I chose to take myself out of this debate because it is more bashing each others ideas rather than conversation.

The components of thermite mean nothing to me either. It is composed of many materials found in common parts of buildings. Therefore finding these together cause these conspiracy to say it was a connection. Here is a video explaining it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OWpC_...embedded#at=33

nice try but still active thermite chips are not used for building materials. lol thats like building a building to blow up lol

[Noles12]

The so called chips were found with the materials that make up thermite. All of the compounds that make thermite were found within parts of the structure as described in the video above. Therefore when pieces of debris were found covered in these compounds the ideas of explosive thermite being placed there came about. The substances that make up thermite can be found in that video with an explanation of why they would be present

[chi]

Zabster i am with you a 100% about Ron Paul but just a little advice and I dont want you to think I am being a grammar Nazi but it doesn't help proving your point with so many misspelled words lol. Might want to get google chrome or another search engine with spell check.

[zabster151]

The so called chips were found with the materials that make up thermite. All of the compounds that make thermite were found within parts of the structure as described in the video above. Therefore when pieces of debris were found covered in these compounds the ideas of explosive thermite being placed there came about. The substances that make up thermite can be found in that video with an explanation of why they would be present

no we are talking about un activated NANO thermite. not just the compounds that can make thermite they are two different things, a buliding would not crumble and fourm NANAO thermite especially un activated nano thermite.

[Noles12]

no we are talking about un activated NANO thermite. not just the compounds that can make thermite they are two different things, a buliding would not crumble and fourm NANAO thermite especially un activated nano thermite.

I cant understand what you were saying here. And i dont believe that nano thermite caused the building to crumble so that statement is irrelevant

[zabster151]

ok here it is . you are right about how some of the same chemicals are in the mixture of building materials. but that is completly different then un-activated NANO Thermite this is material that takes very high technology to make. now we also have the fact that all the scientist that have tested the dust from all buildings have found un activated nano thermite witch proves it was demo there is no way around it un activated Nano Thermite is solid proof

[zabster151]

Zabster i am with you a 100% about Ron Paul but just a little advice and I dont want you to think I am being a grammar Nazi but it doesn't help proving your point with so many misspelled words lol. Might want to get google chrome or another search engine with spell check.

thanx man, lol im usually doing so many other things so i type fast. lol ill work on it

[Public Enemy]

Seriously, after Operation Northwoods going public and after the lies about WMDs in Iraq (One which killed thousands of Americans, and Iraqis), why is it so shocking to think of the U.S. government having played a part? Not saying they did, but to say something like "The government wouldn't do this! Don't even question them!" is bullshit. They have done much worse to other unfortunate people.

[Noles12]

Seriously, after Operation Northwoods going public and after the lies about WMDs in Iraq (One which killed thousands of Americans, and Iraqis), why is it so shocking to think of the U.S. government having played a part? Not saying they did, but to say something like "The government wouldn't do this! Don't even question them!" is bullshit. They have done much worse to other unfortunate people.

I agree the government isnt always truthful and i feel many bad decisions have been made within it. I will agree throughout history there have been many questionable acts by our government. But i do not believe they were responsible for these attacks.

[chi]

look i question a lot our gov't does without a doubt and to me it looks like a controlled demo, regardless of that saying mistakes have been made is truly making light of the situation. There is no doubt that our government had intell on terrorists and did nothing! This alone is enough to say the government had a big hand in 9-11.

sorry guys had to throw a twist in it and pull that card

[zabster151]

i wonder how broke are country will get before we withdraw from this fake war. it seems like they will have everyone on welfare first,while the destroy the privet sector jobs with tax hikes and lots of other expensive red tape. maybe the US can file for bankruptcy, and give are selves a new name like. Ununited chinamex, not to catchy but respectful to are owners you know china and mexico.lol

[zabster151]

http://www.ae911truth.org/en/news-se...io-debate.html

[Noles12]

http://www.ae911truth.org/en/news-se...io-debate.html

That will be an interesting debate

[lovbyts]

zabster, where did you study physics? Where did you get your degree? You are claiming it's all proof but the people who are making these claims are no more qualified than the average high school student or typical conspiracy theorist. It's easy to get caught up in the (quote) facts if you dont know or understand the real science behind it. Please dont say you do unless you have a degree to back it. It's easy to want to believe there is more to it and I myself have gotten close to believing it until I spoke with some VERY educated friends who do have real master degrees in engineering and have shown me and explained how this is perfectly normal.

The conspiracy theorist sites out there like to make claims such as a steel building has never burned like this and show pictures of a couple old burned out buildings with the steel framework still standing but it's simply not true. It is common for them to burn/melt just like they did in 911. You just have to look past the BS and search for facts, dont simply believe what they tell you.

It's good to be passionate about things but dont get carried away where you are closed minded and you become one of the cooks and make yourself an outcast. Like said, this is a BB site with many forums. No need to take one subject you dont agree on and throw everything else away.

[Phosphor]

While I agree with zab on some points from other threads, I cannot get past the obtuse, in-your-face style. After reading them, I imagine him looking and acting like the stapler guy in office space, mumbling about the conspiracies of 9/11. j/k

[zabster151]

zabster, where did you study physics? does it matter physics are physics Where did you get your degree? You are claiming it's all proof but the people who are making these claims are no more qualified than the average high school student are you retarded or something http://www.ae911truth.org/ is full of the best architects and engineers they are very qualified or typical conspiracy theorist. we want the truth It's easy to get caught up in the (quote) facts if you dont know or understand the real science behind it. Please dont say you do unless you have a degree to back it. It's easy to want to believe there is more to it and I myself have gotten close to believing it until I spoke with some VERY educated friends who do have real master degrees in engineering and have shown me and explained how this is perfectly normal.

The conspiracy theorist sites out there like to make claims such as a steel building has never burned like this and show pictures of a couple old burned out buildings with the steel framework still standing but it's simply not true. It is common for them to burn/melt just like they did in 911. You just have to look past the BS and search for facts, dont simply believe what they tell you.find me proof stupid ass no steal structure has ever fell like that

It's good to be passionate about things but dont get carried away where you are closed minded and you become one of the cooks and make yourself an outcast. Like said, this is a BB site with many forums. No need to take one subject you dont agree on and throw everything else away.

you and i will tell you all how ****ing dumb you are because you are trying to say im crazy. at the same time you cant understand physics at all
if you want to see the physics check out what bjj posted and EVERYTHING I HAVE POSTED

[zabster151]

hey watch this video IF YOU CAN . you keep saying building seven was hit by falling Darbee from the twin towers, it was no ware close to building 7,



how do you people not understand FREE FALL SPEED its called zero resistance.

AND NOBODY HAS EXPLAINED NANO THERMITE, SO STOP ASKING FOR MY DEGREE AND DUMB SHIT SAYING HOW CRAZY I AM , TO TRY AND STRAY AWAY FROM THE FACTS AT HAND. NANO THERMITE SHOULD NOT BE THERE IT WAS INVENTED BY ARE GOVERNMENT.. AND A STEAL STRUCTURE BUILDING HAS NEVER EVER FELL LIKE THAT IN HISTORY FIND ME PROO F BEFORE YOU TELL ME HOW WRONG I AM.

[zabster151]

UC Boulder Debate: WTC Destruction - 9/11
Thursday, 03 March 2011 20:19

Natural Collapse or Controlled Demolition?

5:00 pm Sunday, March 6, 2011
University of Colorado - Boulder
University Memorial Center, Room 235
1669 Euclid Ave.
Boulder, CO

BOULDER—The intense and controversial debate is set between the proponents of the “natural collapse” theory and the “controlled demolition” theory. Internationally acclaimed 9/11 speaker and architect Richard Gage, AIA, will present the evidence of the explosive destruction of the three World Trade Center skyscrapers on 9/11. The event will be held in Boulder at the University of Colorado on Sunday, March 6 at 5:00 p.m. Gage will be representing more than 1,400 architects and engineers who question the official story of the collapse of these buildings on 9/11/2001 and are calling for a new independent investigation into the catastrophic events. Chris Mohr, an independent journalist and advocate of the “natural collapse” theory, will present evidence supporting the official account of collapse by fire.

here is the debate: http://noliesradio.org/archives/Gage...1-0306_web.mp3

[zabster151]

no body still has proven me wrong about nano thermite that was found in all buildings, you all still have not explained free fall speed, you all have not proven why NIST has been caught lying on the 9/11 reports, building 7 was not even hit by a plane or Debra. it fell at free fall speed into its own footprint you are all wrong and cant see physics at all. remember NANO THERMITE HAS PROVED YOU ALL WRONG.

[BgMc31]

Nobody cares to debate you anymore Zab. Just go away. No matter what information anyone comes up with you won't accept it, you only resort to name calling and childish insults. Just let it go. Some of the nonsense you've posted (like the government planting the underwear bomber and nyc bomber), causes you to lose a ton of credibility (what little you already had). Again, just let it go or head over to some conspiracy theory websites where I'm sure your theories will be better received.

[zabster151]

Nobody cares to debate you anymore Zab. Just go away. No matter what information anyone comes up with you won't accept it, you only resort to name calling and childish insults. Just let it go. Some of the nonsense you've posted (like the government planting the underwear bomber and nyc bomber), causes you to lose a ton of credibility (what little you already had). Again, just let it go or head over to some conspiracy theory websites where I'm sure your theories will be better received.

you are such a joke. you contently say im name calling yea i have but who cares. stop being such a baby. also you still have not proven what i said is wrong at all. and the way you talk its easy to see you are anti constitution. .you constantly dodge NANO thermite and free fall speed its real and its there. you just have no explanation because your not very smart thats why you cant understand physics. its simple its not a debat when yours side is ignorant to reason real physics.

[BgMc31]

You have no formal education in physics, and the fact that you cannot spell or cannot construct a simple sentence correctly, begs the question...who is actually, remotely, intelligent?

Unlike you, I will not attempt to respond to Nano thermite because I have no formal training on the subject. You have zero formal training so you are just regurgitating nonsensical information from websites that have been refuted and rebuffed with actual scientific explanation over and over again. The fact that you won't believe those refutiations doesn't mean that they are less credible.

But you are right, this isn't a debate. Its your mindless diatribes. Allow me to ask you a question, if I'm the joke, how come everyone is laughing AT YOU?

[zabster151]

You have no formal education in physics, and the fact that you cannot spell or cannot construct a simple sentence correctly, begs the question...who is actually, remotely, intelligent?

Unlike you, I will not attempt to respond to Nano thermite because I have no formal training on the subject. You have zero formal training so you are just regurgitating nonsensical information from websites that have been refuted and rebuffed with actual scientific explanation over and over again. The fact that you won't believe those refutiations doesn't mean that they are less credible.

But you are right, this isn't a debate. Its your mindless diatribes. Allow me to ask you a question, if I'm the joke, how come everyone is laughing AT YOU?

like i said a joke is all you are. my spelling is off who cares. i type in the middle of doing other things. anyway your and idiot who thinks that i have to be a physics major just to understand physics. and yes i have studied physics at a very good college. also like i said earlier Nano thermite show that you and everyone else are wrong. all you have to know is that nano thermite is made by us government. and should not be there. you don't need to be a scientist to see that

and you keep going back and forth with me because it pisses you off that i am right. and you cant enplane why a man made explosive material was there. you have no explanation because your not a smart person sorry for you.